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FIRST IMPRESSIONS WITH FSD v13.2.1 Summary I approached my first drives with FSD v13.2.1 with pretty high expectations, especially after logging over 2,000 miles with FSD v12.5.6.4, which only had two disengagements. Tonight, I drove about 70 miles with the new version, and I came away even more impressed than I was with v12.5.6.3 and .4! The Route Our route took us from my hotel near LAX to The Stand restaurant in Calabasas and back. We decided to venture up into the hills to test how 13.2.1 would handle the twisty roads, along with other challenges like road construction, lane closures, and various other conditions. Traffic & Road Conditions The roads were fairly busy tonight which meant more traffic and even more erratic LA drivers sharing the road, especially near LAX. As I mentioned above, we encountered a lane closure up in the hills near Calabasas which made things even more interesting. What's New & General Commentary - CRAZY HUMAN DRIVERS: 13.2.1 did a fantastic job holding it's own by keeping its composure, even when it was cut off numerous times by surrounding human drivers. No excessive slowing, no phantom braking, just smooth yet calm & collected throttle / brake control. - PRECISE CURB HANDLING: One of my big gripes with 12.5.6.x on city streets was that it would sometimes get a little close to curbs and then not correct it's trajectory. Tonight, I noticed several instances with 13.2.1 where it would correct itself if it thought it was getting too close to a curb. It did so smoothly, without any seesawing on the wheel. As someone who doesn't want to rash any wheel, this behavior made me more confident. It mimicked what a human driver would do in similar situations while navigating tight turns. - SPEED PROFILES FOR ALL SPEED RANGES: Having speed profiles at all speeds made for a smoother experience all around. FSD did seem to do a better job at accelerating up to the speed limit on city streets compared to before however I still think there is room for improvement here (especially on city streets where the speed limit exceeds 40 mph). - STANDARD SPEED PROFILE UPDATES: I drove solely with the "Standard" FSD profile which seemed noticeably more assertive than what I was used to with 12.5.6.3 & .4. By this I mean it was more eager to pass slower traffic and increase its speed >5mph over the limit to better fit in with surrounding traffic. I never felt the lane changes were excessive and instead almost perfectly mirrored how I would have driven the vehicle myself. Unlike with v12.5.6.3 & .4 I never felt the need to switch to the "Hurry" speed profile. - USE OF PASSING LANE: FSD 13.2.1 did exhibit some similar behavior to what I was used to with 12.5.6.x in that it would still stay in the leftmost lane a bit too long, even with traffic directly behind us. I would like to see more work done to increase FSD's awareness of traffic approaching from the rear. Additionally, it should do a better job at proactively moving out of the passing lane when it is safe to do so. Keep in mind this critique is focused on the "Standard" speed profile as that is what I used for tonight's drives. - SLOWING AROUND SEMI TRUCKS: One issue I repeatedly encountered on my trip from Minneapolis to Los Angeles was that 12.5.6.4 (and .3) would noticeably reduce speed when coming alongside Semi Trucks, regardless of the speed differential. This unnecessarily increased the time we spent next to the Semi, which I felt put us more at risk compared to maintaining our speed and quickly passing them. I encountered a few Semi Trucks tonight with 13.2.1, but it wasn't enough to conclude this issue has been resolved just yet. More testing is needed on this one. - PAUSING AT GREEN LIGHTS: At the start of my first drive with 13.2.1 tonight on city streets, there was one occurrence where the light changed and the intersection seemed clear, yet FSD refused to proceed. After waiting a few seconds with no movement from the car, I intervened by pressing the throttle. I reported this incident, hoping the Tesla AI team can investigate what the car might have perceived. - SMOOTHNESS: Overall 13.2.1 seemed even more smooth with brake and throttle inputs compared to v12.5.6.x, especially when decelerating after exiting the freeway. As you may recall, 12.5.6.x would often come in a little hot then have to use a bunch of friction brake to complete the stop. With 13.2.1, the car seemed to almost always rely solely on regenerative braking, which was much smoother. More braking input was applied earlier on the exit ramp, resulting in a smoother experience. - CONSTRUCTION & LANE CLOSURE: As we ascended towards the Top of Topanga Overlook, the right lane was closed, forcing traffic to alternate using the left lane. A construction worker was there, managing traffic with a stop/slow sign. FSD not only detected the hand held stop sign, but immediately adjusted its speed when the worker flipped the sign to "slow". The latency in its decision-making was almost real-time. I was certain was going to have to disengage, but when FSD managed the situation flawlessly, I was genuinely speechless. For the entire journey to the overlook, FSD navigated the single open lane without attempting to veer into the closed lane, correctly following the cones. Seriously impressive stuff! - VOICE COMMANDS: This isn't directly related to FSD but pertains to Tesla OS v2024.39, which seems to include some enhancements to voice commands. Common commands like "set ride height to medium" which were often missed, are now recognized on the first attempt. Additionally, the transcription speed has noticeably improved, happening almost instantly compared to the previous awkward pauses. I hope this is a step towards integrating @grok into our Teslas, and if so, it's an encouraging beginning. Closing Thoughts It is now apparent that driving manually is no longer a necessity when you get into a Tesla equipped with FSD v13. Even long-time Tesla owners familiar with FSD Beta v10 & v11 might underestimate how capable v13 has become and how closely it resembles a safe human driver. We're at a stage where we're fine tuning comfort levels and seeing hundreds of miles between disengagements. While my critiques aim to further enhance FSD, I believe this version is ready for a broader release, and I hope the Tesla AI team will roll it out to the wider AI4-equipped fleet soon. Great work @Tesla_AI team, you all never cease to amaze me! @elonmusk @aelluswamy @Tesla_AI @tesla @tesla_na @pduan @YunTaTsai1 @KalenaKBrown @ArekSredzki @TeslaOwnersMN @wholemars


I stole this one. From Elon.

My Tesla FSD 13.2 drove me from Los Angeles to San Diego, and I didn't touch the steering wheel or pedals once from the parking spot in Los Angeles to the parking garage of the hotel in San Diego. Road tripping without this tech in 2024 is insane. Sponsored by @JowuaLife



















