Monan Li
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Monan Li
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https://t.co/4uOqXbFYNu 準基督徒, 佛学爱好者,大叔,80后,外貌协会准会员,Coder, Futures, Coreseek, Sphinx, CRF, NLP
39.988483,116.313911 Katılım Haziran 2009
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DeepSeek v4 works fine, but it’s not the frontier-pressing moment we saw with Kimi 2.6. On Notion eval data, it’s similar performance to GPT 5.2, with understandable failings.
Most interesting — it doesn’t scale well. It’s ridiculously slow. On multiple major, trusted, and performant US inference providers we see it 15x slower than GPT 5.2 and 2x slower than Opus 4.7, a problem Kimi never had.
Curious if it’s a fundamental issue in architecture, or a matter of time til inference providers make it work. Doesn’t seem urgent either way, if Kimi can outperform. Cheaper maybe, but not groundbreaking.
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@DevBySami Here , as people in China , also can NOT BUY the subscription. :(
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Honestly, fuck z.ai for this bullshit ass system.
You basically need to spawn-camp until 4 in the morning, and then you cannot fucking open their shit garbage website, because it's overloaded.
It's 4:19, and all subscriptions are "sold out"? Fuck you.


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z.ai is about to double the consumption rate of their GLM 5.x models at the end of the month, which you need a Pro plan @ $72/mo to get decent use out of them.
$100/mo OpenAI plan is a no brainer.
MiniMax is the only Chinese token plan @ $10/mo that is worth the money.
What is this strat called???
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lmfao westerner tax from @Zai_org is crazy
The same "Max" plan served in China that costs $68 USD (469 RMB) is $160 USD for westerners. Irony is, if you have WeChat or Alipay, you can just buy the Chinese plan and still have API access. So it's not even GEOLOCK related costs. It's just capitalising on the gold rush right now for subscription-based OAuth integrations.
Diabolical is an understatement tbh

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DeepSeek 花这么大代价在华为卡上跑通可不仅仅是为了竞争力
用过华为卡的都知道华为卡有多难用,能在这么烂的卡上纯独立训出来,哪怕他就是为了政治任务浪费了几个月,那也是在垃圾里淘金
华为努力地去适配 vllm / verl 这些主流框架,但是 DeepSeek 可以完全自己重新和华为定义“主流框架”
Deepseek R1 从没失去竞争力,别忘了他们也发明了 GRPO、DSA🤣不要小瞧了这些追梦上市的小东西和老东西们
高级分析师@techeconomyana
创智记说的隐晦,Deepseek V4很难复制V3盛况。 我之前就说了,模型迭代周期就是最重要的指标,Deepseek从原先稳定2个月一更到5个月一更,实质上就是出局了。面对每月一更的Claude和GPT,Deepseek已经没有竞争力了。
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@Hakonootoko 拿茅台直接喝一口再结账当然也没问题,只是多用于请客,没人这么干而已。据另外一个例子,你去饭店是先付钱才开吃吗? 如果都是先付钱,说明没上过席面吧?
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如果拧开一瓶矿泉水,喝一口再结账,不触犯法律,也不破坏规则的话,那拧开一瓶茅台喝一口再结账也应该成立。
然而,现实中谁也不敢这样做。说白了,不过是在中国追责成本过高,商家做出的妥协罢了。
海东抱闲斋二代目@Haidongbaok9wu
我老人家的三观收到了近十年来最严重的冲击: 居然如此多的人异口同声的说任何一家超市或便利店都可以先拧开盖子喝水再去前台结账。。。。。
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