Nabeel Mohamed
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@ofc_nbl @belle_liuu Where can we find this other Torah the quran is talking about?
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This is a Common Muslim Claim:
The Qur'an is God's final revelation because Muhammad was illiterate, yet accurately retold the stories of the prophets.
This is the Christian objection:
Then those stories should match the earlier Scriptures they claim to confirm (The Torah’s account)
The Qur'an says the story of Joseph confirms the previous revelation.
Yet, there are 944 differences between the Qur'anic account and the Torah.
Both cannot be true.
When you compare the Qur'anic account with the Torah, there are hundreds of differences in just that one narrative.
If the Qur'an claims to confirm the previous Scriptures, why does it so often contradict them.
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@belle_liuu No one denies that. The whole summary is this: God gave revelations to the prophets, including Torah to Moses but the books we have today aren’t exactly verbatim what God revealed. But there’s truth. You’re assuming Quran either verbatim rejects Bible or affirms it as God’s.
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Christian: Surah 7 says Muhammad is found in the Torah and Gospel.
Muslim: Correct.
Christian: Which Torah?
Muslim: The Torah available then.
Christian: The Torah the Jews possessed?
Muslim: Yes.
Christian: Then at least that Torah must have been trustworthy enough to identify Muhammad.
Muslim: At least in that area.
Christian: So the Qur'an is assuming the Torah contains genuine revelation.
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@belle_liuu Quran confirms previous revelations given to prophets as full truths. You’re so fixated on the story of Joseph and the differences between Bible and Quran. This is false because the premise your operating within, that Pentetauch is what Quran deems revelationary is false.
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@eliMCXI @GodLogic_GL I just phrased my words funny earlier. I don’t deny he was always Messiah. But I meant the critical mission that he will be undertaking as Messiah will be defined a lot by his second coming
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@ofc_nbl @GodLogic_GL So Jesus wasn't the messiah when he came? 😅 c'mon man..
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@eternalbread_ So according to your logic, John the Baptist PBUH would be considered God in Islam because he was born to two biologically infertile parents. Same with Adam PBUH, who had no mother or father.
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If Jesus was just a prophet, why was he the only one to have a miraculous birth from a virgin?
No other prophets received a birth like this. The only thing that comes close is being conceived to barren / elderly parents.
In the Christian paradigm, the virgin birth makes perfect sense because it is consistent with Jesus' sinless nature.
In Islam, it makes no sense and feels completely random.
Jesus is still only a prophet, yet He's uniquely born of a virgin with no comparable theological explanation beyond it being a miracle.
Why give Him a birth unlike every other prophet if He's just another prophet?
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@JamesKowalski88 Who said a written Injil in Quran 5:46? You’re inventing stuff as you keep going
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Your own book, the Quran, explicitly claims that Allah sent down a physical Torah to Moses in Surah 3:3 and gave a singular written Injil directly to Jesus in Surah 5:46.
If secular historians are right that those single, dictated books never actually existed in history, then they are proving that the Quran's historical claims are completely false. You are literally using secular historical criticism to call the Quran historically inaccurate.
Even worse, your graphic explicitly states that the Quran is the text of the Prophet Muhammad. Orthodox Islamic theology insists it is exclusively the uncreated word of Allah, not Muhammad's text. You completely undermined your own religion twice in a single paragraph.
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@InspiringPhilos The Quran doesn’t care what you say. It’s critiquing using its own standard.
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Wait until you see the blatant lies the Quran spread about Christians.




Daniel Haqiqatjou@Haqiqatjou
Throughout history, Christian authorities have spread blatant lies about Islam to prevent Christian populations from converting.
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@InspiringPhilos So people don’t worship Jesus or Mary, or have a prophecy of Muhammad PBUH in the Bible or take scholars in place of God?
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@Husaria5 @zimuzor16 @RealShahriqKhan Keep dreaming. That’s why it edits previous narratives, adds and subtracts from them
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@zimuzor16 @ofc_nbl @RealShahriqKhan The quran copies and plagiarizes. It reads like word salad gibberish
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When I was Muslim, Surah 5:32 was my favorite verse to quote.
“Whoever kills a soul, it is as if he killed all of mankind.”
I put it in every debate. Every conversation about Islam and peace. It felt like the most beautiful verse in the Quran.
Then I read it slowly.
The verse doesn’t say Allah revealed this to Muhammad. It says: “We decreed upon the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL…”
Wait. Decreed where? When? I went looking.
And I found it.
Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5. A rabbinic commentary on Cain and Abel, written down around 200 AD — four centuries before the Quran.
Rabbis discussing why Genesis says Abel’s “bloods” cry out — plural — and concluding: whoever destroys one soul, it is as if he destroyed an entire world.
Word for word. Same context. Same Cain and Abel story it’s attached to in Surah 5.
The most beautiful verse in the Quran is a rabbi’s classroom commentary.
And that’s when the question changed for me. It was never “is this verse beautiful?” It was: what is a rabbinic homily doing inside a book that claims to be the eternal, uncreated speech of God?
Because there are only two options:
Either Allah quoted the rabbis.
Or a man in Arabia heard Jewish teachers and repeated what they said.
The Bible predicted men would do this too.
Jeremiah 23:30 — “I am against the prophets who steal my words from one another.”
Once I stopped defending man’s word… I found the Living Word. Christ Jesus my King.
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@BewaJ66911 @zimuzor16 @RealShahriqKhan What do you mean? And if you ask any Jewish rabbi, even the most Haredi ones, they will tell you they worship the same God as Muslims, and hesitate to answer when asked on Christians
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@ofc_nbl @egyptian_yousif Yes Yasha/Yahsu
This is the Arab name for Jesus and not Isa
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@enesovat22 Oh. Is that why idol worship is strictly banned with strict monotheism only, where alcohol is completely forbidden, and a way of life that brings morals is from Islam? Or would Satan preach that Jesus is the messenger of God and Messiah?
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@wewill___win @Habtishgreat Who is “our”? Ethiopia is 40% Orthodox, and 35% Muslim. Amharas make up around 27% meaning 73% of the country isn’t Amhara
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@Habtishgreat We want to preserve our Christian, Semitic civilization.
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@Mahamlai9 @RealShahriqKhan I’m not hear to debate whether or not these stories had to be preserved in Bible. I’m just critiquing a very narrow reading of Shahriq
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@ofc_nbl @RealShahriqKhan Don't just think
Produce the evidence that Allah this failed to preserve this story.
Like those verses of breastfeeding adult and stoning a tame goat ate
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When I was Muslim, I believed Jesus did miracles even the Quran admits Muhammad never did.
My book says Jesus healed the blind, healed lepers, and RAISED THE DEAD. By God’s permission, yes — but it says it plainly. Surah 3:49.
It says He was born of a virgin. Surah 19. It says He’s coming back. It says He’s “honored in this world and the next.” Surah 3:45.
So I had to sit with this:
My own book, the Quran, gives Jesus a virgin birth, sinless life, power over death, and a return at the end of time.
It gives those things to no one else. Not even Muhammad.
You know what rattled me?
I was taught Jesus was just one prophet among many. Equal. In line.
But my own book couldn’t keep Him in the line. It kept handing Him things it gave to nobody else.
When your own scripture can’t stop making a man the exception…
maybe He was never meant to fit in the line.
Maybe He’s the One the whole line was pointing to. Jesus is KING.
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@Mahamlai9 @RealShahriqKhan There’s something called abrogation in Islam, clearly addressed in the Quran itself. Whenever God causes someone to forget a verse or lose it, God ultimately has another plan regarding that ruling. That’s why the breastfeeding one was abrogated in recitation and practice
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Women Passing in Front of a Man Invalidates His Prayer!
Muhammad is praying. A woman walks in front of him, and he angrily shouts, “Move away!”
Sahih al-Bukhari clearly states:
“A woman’s passing, a donkey, or a black dog passing in front of a praying person invalidates the prayer.”
This is Islam’s respect for women.
Women are placed alongside donkeys and black dogs. If a woman passes in front of a man during prayer, his prayer is considered invalid. Yet women are confined and covered in the name of “modesty” and “purity.”
Treating women as a source of impurity or misfortune is not respect. It is misogyny. This religion did not treat women as equal human beings. It portrayed them as a cause of disruption.

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@SamuelAyodele_T Show me that verse. It never tells to beat women or permits it
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Yet the same Qur'an permit women to be strike by strikers 😂🤣🤣
Maliq@MasterMaliq
No religion honoured women the way Islam did. The Quran dedicated an entire chapter to women. That alone should make people think.
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