@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Of course it existed but the way it was destroyed again ur science will say its coz its salty thats why but god made it salty for obvious reasons
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ Dead sea was in existence before this lut/ lot whatever you say came into existence
There are literal geographical proofs for the reason behind dead sea to be like that. Homo sapiens were not even came into existence then! 😭😭
But I'm sure you will start whataboutary again.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Just tell michael to add these people on list, some might say these people were not good, u will say they were good so who will decide? Oops the creator who has given rules and law will decide
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ I know many people who have done better things than Prophet. Way pious & way dedicated to the betterment of humanity & that too without discriminating people on the basis of their faith, without any political longings.
Learn about them to know what they have given to humanity
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Mate i aint just talking about fire, there is so many idols that are worshipped, cows are gods and i saw a video of trump statue being worshipped, where has this come from? God said i have other gods worship them?
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ Hinduism is not about treating fire as God! 😭 😭
No that gesture doesn't mean that. It means hands raised in dua. Bismillah along with that gesture doesn't mean what you have just said above!
Learn ur religion properly.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ I really dont know what u blabbering here but god is not beyond understanding, he has explained who he is and what he does,he is like nobody including fire
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ God is beyond ur texts & now it seems beyond ur understanding too! God is beyond your languages be it Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit or any other. He doesn't need your words to reach his subjects.
The best you can do is to keep blabbering about this being muslim or that being muslim!
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ As plants live and animals worship creator made sure that in such place his worship was not done by anybody and the name was given dead sea forever
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ I have provided you scientific explanation behind sexual orientation, but you are again quoting baseless unscientific text from your holy book!
This is how extremists defend polygamy and other heinous things.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ U clearly havent looked at the prophets life in detail and realised what he did has to have come from god,look it up u might learn something,everything on earth has a purpose and humans have been left without purpose by the creator, why should eating a baby for breakfast be bad?
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ God sent no-one! Every religion is man made. Every prophecy is man made. Even Gita is the word of learned men and women of that times, so are other holy texts.
It's easy for a person of wisdom to accept this fact, otherwise keep waiting for ur turn in a man made up Jannah.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Why dont u treat it as god? So that means ur dont follow hinduism? The gesture that muslims say is towards god and nobody else there is no other being other than god
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ I don't treat it as god. But many Hindus believe it to be a way to connect to God, hence divine in nature.
And I absolutely respect their belief. Just like I would respect yours for doing 🤲🏽 gesture and saying Bismillah before any auspicious task for showing gratitude to God.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ What u need to understand is that god has rules and law, this life is a test for everyone, every person has a unique test based on their lives, people have all sorts of desires including thoughts of being gay, u stop ur desires based on gods rules is a reward and leads to heaven
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ This is exactly where evolution comes into picture!
Merely tagging sexual orientation as "Rules created by creators" clearly reflects your lack of scientific temperament.
IT IS NOT A SIN!
Had that holy text been written by the permission of God, he would have told you this fact!
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Given by people? Who made these treaties? Humans made them? God sent them? Remember a creator of anything knows what that thing needs and how to handle it so u can show me this seeker
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ I don't have list of prophecies I don't believe in them. But I have list of treatises given by people of my country who followed the very path I'm trying to follow as a "SEEKER" and helped mankind in achieving excellence when there was a clear silence in that field.
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Now prophet lut, he warned his people many many time and god took action, ur garden ur rules if kids play football and it comes in ur garden u will ignore, if it keeps happening time and time again u will get pissed off maybe tell parents or kids, ur taking action just like god
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ Exactly! A text by the creator would never tell you to mistreat anyone, be it gay, women or people who don't share faith with you!
Thanks for bringing this example. Let's analyse the understanding of this very sensitive issue from the perspective of the 2 holy texts:
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Point 28? Im not sure what that means, is it from the prophets saying or quran, oh i think its someones opinion to fit the usual agendas😂
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ I can just add random names there aswell without any evidence would u believe it, no u wouldnt so why are u believing in that screenshot where u cant find any evidence in the quran or sayings of the prophet about what they claim,
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Seriously?In 1980’s being gay was morally seen as mental health and 2026 it no longer is,understanding has changed,were the people in 1980’s right for thinking like that or are 2026 people right? Who decides?A human creator of things will tell u how it works just like god will
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ If morality depends only on a creator's command, then it becomes obedience, not ethics. True morality must be something we can understand, question, and arrive at through reason and consciousness!
@Pallavi5490@ME_Observer_ Now ur claim of example of him luring them and presenting women as objects of desires, normal speech of social media agenda people, send me the evidence of ur claim
@ozzy1122@ME_Observer_ I'm asking about the mentality of a person who is promising such worldly cheap pleasures as rewards for believing in God?
With great power comes great responsibility! What responsibility was he showing while giving examples to lure them and presenting women as objects of desire?