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@Silentmob701 No need to interpret, St. Philaret was apart of the episcopate. His words are very clear.
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@sirramlna Orthodoxy isn’t individual interpretation, even of saints. Saints are received within the mind of the Church, and dogma is safeguarded and defined through the episcopate and councils, not private selection and personal reading
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@sirramlna What you are doing is not orthodoxy and quite frankly you’re wrong psa is not what orthodox teaches
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@sirramlna youtube.com/live/XNvaM9m3T…
This video is the orthodox position if you disagree you are simply wrong

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@Silentmob701 Osb has many authors and some are modernists. If you disagree that the cross was a legal payment you not only disagree with me but you disagree with Christianity
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@sirramlna Osb isn’t inconsistent you are just confused by the language and if you say blachernae doesn’t disagree with what you said then we don’t disagree
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@sirramlna 5/5.
...cherry-picking 10% of other saints’ writings to conveniently ignore the remaining 90%.
You adopt the same compartmentalized mindset typical of apostasy. In RC, theology is effectively reduced to St. Augustine and Aquinas; in Protestantism, to Calvin and Arminius.
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@sirramlna 1/5
I’m sorry, dear heterodox, but the Apostolic Faith does not bend itself to your legalistic obsessions.
God is beyond being and not subject to human passions, as if His honor could be wounded. He needs nothing repaid, for nothing was taken from Him as you imagine.

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@Silentmob701 Blachernae doesn’t contradict what I said.. and the osb is inconsistent in the note on Deut. 21:22-23 it says Christ "was the Innocent One who took the place of us, who were the guilty."
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@sirramlna The council of blachernae cooks you’re nonsense and even the orthodox study bible doesn’t hold to psa
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@FPHostage The bishop in the front of your AI slop image is Patriarch Kirill, who teaches that the Cross was Christ bearing the required punishment to atone for our guilt patriarchia.ru/article/95328
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@ultrajectensis As St. John Chrysostom says, “He took upon Himself the punishment that we deserved from the Father.” That language is explicitly penal yet it is clearly within the patristic tradition. pappaspatristicinstitute.com/post/chrysosto…
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@sirramlna I don’t think that I actually disagree with you as long as we’re clear on what the curse entails.
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@ultrajectensis It’s speaking about the curse of the Law, which makes the context explicitly legal. Christ redeemed us from it — “ἡμᾶς ἐξηγόρασεν” — meaning He bought us out, which clearly implies a real transaction.
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@sirramlna Right - that doesn’t necessitate reading it as a legal transaction.
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@ultrajectensis He endured the curse in order to redeem us from the curse (Galatians 3:13).
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@sirramlna That’s not legal transaction. Christ endured the curse of death to fill it with life. It’s quite apparent that the action of the Cross is related to Leviticus 16, which isn’t legal transaction either; it’s expiatory.
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@sirramlna Having a hard time finding this in the New Testament.
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@orthomaton St. Gregory didn’t use vague “price” language he said the penalty, and the saints are very clear about what that entails.

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@orthomaton St. Gregory says right afterward in the Oration you quoted that the Cross happened "because Humanity MUST be sanctified by the Humanity of God". Christ paid the just penalty for our salvation

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@orthomaton that doesn't at all contradict the fact that it was a legal payment required for our salvation by divine justice. Don't set the saints against each other.
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