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@Kim875 @Lifeis2D Yeah, that's it. DE was their biggest chance and they totally dropped the ball. Maybe in time the truth about DE comes out and we can understand why they did what that did.

@Lifeis2D I don’t think anyone thought otherwise? Double Exposure was the big opportunity. Once that failed, anything that came after it was always going to fail too.

I don't think that's a particularly complex reasoning to follow. Regardless of metascore that does or doesn't matter or ship or fan war or quality or but-i-liked-it-so or its a short game or its on consoles or... Coming off a failure, it was going to sell less. It is doing so.

@sniperr0xz @chloellieprice Well, we agree to disagree.

@chloellieprice @perdregast People do not bring this up when they criticize the game, they literally just bash the entirety of it, the storytelling as a whole as if DE was a 1 game release, the side characters, the graphics, it’s weird. I get Max and Chloe being diff from what we expected,but DE was not bad

A game doesn't need to be 'by and for fans' aftermath.site/life-is-strang…

@sniperr0xz @chloellieprice A grown woman who behaves somewhat as a horny airhead teenager, which she wasn't at all when she was 18. No trauma at all from the events in LIS, imposes herself to Amanda across different timelines, etc, etc. A great job, sure.

@perdregast @chloellieprice Apart from the shitty journal I really don’t see any way she isn’t LiS’s Max, especially since we’re talking about a 10 years older grown woman.

@chloellieprice @sniperr0xz Probably a better idea. Anyway, go back and play BTS again and let me know if chapter 3 makes sense at all. D9 were always good at some stuff (Mocap) but storytelling was never their forte... and they landed the one franchise with the best storytelling.

@sniperr0xz @perdregast I would have liked a game with Safi as the MC :)

@sniperr0xz @chloellieprice I'm not trying to convince anyone, but besides endings, bay, bae o pricefield, they never got the characters right. The Max in DE is simply not the Max in LIS.

@chloellieprice @perdregast That’s really interesting actually. I never really noticed that about BTS, I thought Chloe’s character made perfect sense, but I get it to an extent. Regardless, it’s very disappointing we’ll never know what was supposed to be DE’s original continuation.

@WanHohenHeim @sniperr0xz I don't think so. They were lucky enough to secure a contract, and the videogame industry is really tough.

@perdregast @sniperr0xz I mean it was in their hands to refuse making lis games...

@WanHohenHeim @sniperr0xz I don't think they were biased by fans. I think they just didn't like Max and Chloe. They wanted to do their own thing but their only contract was with SE to develop life is strange games.

@sniperr0xz @perdregast @DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site >it was a story fully written by a creative team unbiased by fan complaints. It actually was biased by fans complains. By Bayer fans complains. For 10 years they demanded that Bay is the only true and right choice and then DeckNine just followed that. So stop dedending them

@sniperr0xz @DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site Well, to each its own. I never liked anything @DeckNineGames did with Max and Chloe. I heavily criticized BTS back in the day. I honestly believe the people there weren't really invested in those characters but that's the deal they landed... and it showed.

@perdregast @DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site What is it with you guys, whenever reunion gets rightfully criticized for its commercial nature, you guys jump to hate on DE. The creation of DE perfectly aligns with Michel’s convictions for it was a story fully written by a creative team unbiased by fan complaints.

@DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site Right, like how many artists have confessed to be slaves to their success. IMO the only way is to give the characters the story they ask for/deserve. Probably Reunion wasn't that, for sure, DE wasn't at all.

@perdregast @Aftermath_site And reaching a common ground pleasing all those different head canons means stopping to create for yourself and stopping putting part of yourself in the stories, and can become an exercice of ticking boxes.

@DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site Also, I think its take on Max and Chloe is kinda shallow.

@DONTNOD_Michel @Aftermath_site The article’s core point is solid: stories shouldn’t exist just to give fans what they “deserve.” But when it comes to Life is Strange, the critique feels incomplete without considering what Double Exposure meant for the series at its core,so its take on Reunion only goes halfway

@Aftermath_site This is a great article and you articulated a lot of my thoughts way better than I could!

@BLyun Then it makes even less sense. Because none of the archs in DE are followed in Reunion. Superheros? Diamond? Victoria and Chloe? The story in DE is thrown away and only the characters with almost no background remain. Even Safi looks like a different character.

Andres Ortiz Suarez, the principal programmer on Life Is Strange: Reunion, has left developer Deck Nine today. Part of his message: "I know [that] were circumstances different, we could have made so many more amazing games." Ah, I feel for him and many, many other people.

@AdnanRiaz9 Sadly, I think this is an honest review from someone who understood what the original LIS was about. And their points, one by one, are right.

TechRadar has dropped one of the first deeply negative reviews about Deck Nine's Life Is Strange: Reunion. It called out the "cowardly" decision of the sequel as part of the "embarrassing attempt to make amends with fans after Double Exposure." 🔗 techradar.com/gaming/life-is…

@chanwape @KENOASTRAL Well still early, since the game just went out yesterday, but I'm guessing bit by bit more of this details will come out.

@perdregast @KENOASTRAL no not as far as i can tell, def not in my playthrough

the way i see the “destroy the photo” ending parallels the bae ending. sometimes, you have to take decisions for others. yes, sometimes it may feel like going against their wishes—a secret, a betrayal—but you do this because you love them & want them to move on. #secretsofcaledon

@KatiKnitt But is it actually following the story? It feels like the characters are there, what happened, happened, but there is no meaningful follow up to the story I'm DE

@KENOASTRAL I was putting all my money I'm D9 basically ignoring the narrative I'm DE.

@perdregast there's even more plot holes to be fair. there's an optional convo with diamond at the end but they never state what her powers are. she left school, basically. #secretsofcaledon

the endings of this game actually really upset me. i feel like it ruins the build up so much. i don't feel like they're really nuanced. it feels very good vs bad ending. #secretsofcaledon

@Lifeis2D I'm afraid that won't be the case with Reunion. and my hopes are not so high either about the tv show. I hope I'm proved wrong.

@perdregast I might, if it went to the right kind of people to do it justice. SE/D9 have proved time and time again that it's not them. It needs to be important and respected and talk about things that matter. Not just "REMEMBER THIS THING? K GIVE US MONEY NOW PLZ." Until then, its done.

I have zero dread or apprehension about tomorrow. And that fact just tells me how far the franchise fell. Tomorrow is just getting it over with, and hopefully letting actual Life is Strange games come back in a better way in the future. From people who actually believe and care.