pgils
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@pgils27982 @bball_ref Pls strike "all" from the record.
How about "vast majority?"
Will the cultist dullard settle for vast majority?
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Best opponents LeBron or Jordan faced in a playoff series (based on @bball_ref Simple Rating System):
11.35 - 2017 Warriors
11.04 - 2026 Thunder
10.38 - 2016 Warriors
10.01 - 2015 Warriors
9.30 - 2008 Celtics
9.06 - 1986 Celtics
8.35 - 2007 Spurs
8.00 - 2014 Spurs
Really difficult to say who faced tougher opponents. It's just so tough!!!!
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@aallssuupp @bball_ref ALL? Lol there was literally east players 1st team all nba every year except 98.
LeSuperteam had weaker east.



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@BarryOnHere @bball_ref Bulls ECF routes were a fucking joke and it's not difficult to figure out why.
When Chuck hightailed it to PHX, ALL the best players in the fucking league were in the WC save MJ and Scottie.

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@Ceo_Branding @BarryOnHere @bball_ref there’s no way you believe the suns were better than the 73-9 warriors. I’m a suns fan and i’ll tell you we’d be lucky to win a game against the warriors
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@JuliusC23680344 @Ceo_Branding @kinge_babyy @bball_ref This ain't. Mj beat higher rated teams except 2016 GS.

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@Darrenw83960808 @luisrojasext @bball_ref Easily with 90s rules. MJ, pip, rodman would lock them up.
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@luisrojasext @BarryOnHere @bball_ref You’re seriously delusional if u think them bulls are beating the warriors
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@AllThingsBron @JohnSmithrabv @bball_ref Lol suns and jazz had home court in finals. 92 Blazers had 7 players in double figures in playoffs. Similar to spurs in terms of depth.
Only clearly better team was GS with KD but Lbj had superteam. MJ did not. Different era.
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@JohnSmithrabv @BarryOnHere @bball_ref Very true, only "great" team
Lotta good teams in the 90s. None as great or deep as the Bulls. For sure nobody on the Spurs or Warriors level to play against in that time. Teams LeBron had to play 7x in the Finals 🫠
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@AllThingsBron @MiamiAJ4 @bball_ref Lmao at 2023 nuggets and 26 okc.
07 spurs, parker was FMVP and outscored your goat in finals. Not happening to MJ.
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@MiamiAJ4 @BarryOnHere @bball_ref Let's see
2007 Spurs, 2018 Warriors, 2023 Nuggets, 2026 Thunder
3 of those teams would be the best team MJ ever faced 😭
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@GShift21 @mariahali94 @FoxSportsRadio @robparkerMLBbro @Kdubblive @OddCoupleFSR Dont forget 2010 choke vs celtics where he got outscored by rondo in back to back games
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@mariahali94 @FoxSportsRadio @robparkerMLBbro @Kdubblive @OddCoupleFSR LeFraud needed to retire after Dwight and the Magic embarrassed his ass lol. Little Jameer Nelson got him, embarrassing. Then he gets embarrassed with his Super Team the following season when JJ Barea shut his ass down lmfao
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"I have the solution for LeBron James... RETIRE! There's nothing left for you besides just stockpiling meaningless numbers."
📺@robparkerMLBbro and @Kdubblive debate whether the time has finally come for The King to hang up his crown for good...
🏀via @OddCoupleFSR
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@BarryOnHere Using stats just brings out the cherry picking MJ glazers.
The narrative needs to shift to basketball ability. There’s no argument that can be made against LeBron being a better shooter, passer, & rebounder. He’s bigger, stronger, and can guard more positions. This is the answer.
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Michael Jordan played 48,501 minutes in the NBA.
LeBron passed that on January 29th, 2017. He has played 695 games since then, and put up the following stats in that time:
18,451 PTS - 5,622 REB - 5,657 AST - 850 STL - 490 BLK
"counting stats who cares?"
26.5 PPG - 8.1 RPG - 8.1 APG - 1.2 SPG - 0.7 BPG - 60.7% TS
"there's more to the game than individual stats!!"
1x Ring
1x Finals MVP
3x NBA Finals appearances
4x Conference Finals appearances
7x MVP finalist (2x runner-up)
9x All-NBA (3x 1st Team All-NBA)
It's literally a joke how badly LeBron has lapped everybody else but we gotta pretend he hasn't b/c killer instinct or something.
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@HtK_zambies @BarryOnHere I think your argument needs work if you’re saying things like “steals titles”.
Did he get a trophy for that?
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@BarryOnHere MJ's first 6 years and Wizards years don't count but every single LeBron moment has to be counted including 2011. Kobe 2004 and post Achilles aren't counted. Inadvertently they are admitting LeBron is the GOAT as no other player in history has had to be perfect every year.
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You can't count MJ's 1st 6 years because his team wasn't ready to win.
You also can't count MJ losing to the Magic in 1995 because he was still in "baseball shape"
Oh, and you also count MJ's 2 horrible years with the Wizards because he was old.
Can only use the 6 years he won a title.
GOAT.
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@NEOMeck @NBA__Courtside You brain dead morons have the stupidest criteria’s imaginable. Finals records as a determination of who is the GOAT is simply an MJ narrative. Lebron has 4 hall of fame careers with 3 different teams. Stop it.

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Nick Wright on the debate if LeBron James tenure in LA was a success:
“LeBron the record is 8 years with the Lakers, 7 trips to the playoffs. 2 seasons where they made a conference finals and 1 championship. And you’re going to have folks today earnestly genuinely try to argue that LeBron Lakers tenure was a failure. To which I would simply say or ask and don’t even add I’m not even asking you to add any age related qualifiers to it. Has Giannis 13 year Bucks career been a failure? Because in those 13 years, Giannis has 1 trip to the finals, 1 championship, and 1 trip to another conference finals and that’s the exact same thing as Bron in his 8 with the Lakers.”
(Via @WhatsWrightShow)
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@ydkbatall @NEOMeck @NBA__Courtside Difference is joker played with no all stars until this year. LeRoids played with top 7 player AD then top 5 player Luka.
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@NEOMeck @NBA__Courtside Jokic career:
2018: 2nd round exit
2019: 2nd round exit
2020: 3rd round exit
2021: 2nd round exit
2022: 1st round exit
2023: Ring
2024: 2nd round exit
2025: 2nd round exit
2026: 1st round exit
This is a guy with 3 mvps so I guess his entire career has been a failure to you.
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@BlueChkAnalyzer Nah he shoots 37% outside 3 feet in era with way less physical defense and wide open paint
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@BarryOnHere LeBron would’ve averaged 47ppg in the 80’s and 90’s.
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@BarryOnHere Wait so you are at the height of your powers the second you come into the league, why did it take either so long to win a chip?
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LeBron has a 32-31 playoff record in his 63 playoff games with the Lakers. 1 title. 2 Conference Finals.
Jordan had a 33-30 playoff record in his 1st 63 playoff games with the Bulls. 0 titles. 2 Conference Finals.
The difference is, LeBron was in his 17th season before playing a playoff game with LA, while Jordan was at the height of his individual powers.
If you're criticizing LeBron for his time in LA, you're just telling on yourself.
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@keto_lion Plus Lbj had AD and then Luka.. Mj had crackheads on his team in 80s
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@BarryOnHere Difference is Jordan’s first 63 playoff games came BEFORE the dynasty. Bron’s Lakers run came AFTER he was already crowned himself the GOAT with full superstar influence over the roster.
Different expectations. Different standards.
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@BarryOnHere Mike wasn’t at the height of his powers until about 1990. Athletically, it was probably 87-88, but he mastered basketball by 27 right around 90-91. Peak MJ was 90-93.
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@MervieB_07 @DVLJR Same with Lbj.. he avoided Shaq kobe dynasty and prime spurs
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@BarryOnHere People really forget that he’s at minimum tied for the greatest peak in the history of the sport, then you factor in longevity and it all goes out the window.
KD doesn’t go to GSW and Bron has 5 titles at minimum.
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Highest PER in a playoff run between LeBron & Jordan:
37.4 - LeBron 2009
32.2 - LeBron 2018
32.0 - Jordan 1991
31.7 - Jordan 1990
31.0 - LeBron 2014
30.3 - LeBron 2012
30.2 - LeBron 2020
30.1 - LeBron 2017
30.1 - Jordan 1993
30.0 - LeBron 2016
29.9 - Jordan 1989
28.6 - LeBron 2010
Highest Win Shares/Per 48 Minutes in a playoff run between LeBron & Jordan:
.399 - LeBron 2009
.333 - Jordan 1991
.306 - Jordan 1996
.284 - LeBron 2012
.284 - Jordan 1990
.275 - LeBron 2017
.274 - LeBron 2016
.270 - Jordan 1989
.270 - Jordan 1993
.269 - LeBron 2014
.269 - LeBron 2020
.269 - LeBron 2018
LeBron haters try sooooooo hard to pretend he's just a longevity merchant and that his peak isn't anywhere near MJ's hahaha oh that's funny.
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@SashaWe15747849 @RockyRoads90 @KevinRodri3525 That was the last dance. They werent coming back. Mj already Goated after back to back 3 peats. No need to statpad.
He went to wiz to become an owner numbnuts.
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@pgils27982 @RockyRoads90 @KevinRodri3525 He quit on the Bulls and went to a 19 win team. That's embarrassing. Literally no team wanted him.
In comparison, Miami traded FOUR PICKS to get LeBron.
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The most ironic part of LeBron hate is that, by simply hating on him at this stage, is to admit he is the best ever, since you're admitting you hold him to a standard you don't hold any other player to. Why? because literally no other player ever has gotten to the stage LeBron is right now.
It's a hilarious paradox, to criticize LeBron now is to admit he's the best ever. But that's what LeBron haters get for allowing their pathological hatred/insecurity to override their common sense for the last 23 years.
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