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Heard some “not real degrowth” talk from people when confronted with real examples of the ideology, just like the old “not real communism” excuse.
I have some insight into the psychology involved, as I was drawn to the radical left in my youth. These ideologies essentially state “implement desired policy A and get desired outcome B” - and it’s important to understand that A and B are both desired. A is not just an expedient to get to B. The communists and the degrowthers both believe that a cathartic overthrow of the system they hate and their subsequent empowerment will lead to heaven on earth.
When someone implements policy A and gets outcome C, the ideologue infers that A can’t actually have happened because outcome B didn’t happen. They won’t abandon the link because, as I said, they are as attached to policy A (usually some form of radical change) as they are to outcome B - often more so.
In the theatre of their minds, the link is as solid as a law of nature. They’ve run through the revolution dozens of times, naturally with themselves as a leading figure. The outcomes in their dreams are always positive, and if reality differs then reality must be mistaken.
There is a danger of this for everybody - it’s impossible to build futures without imagining them first and you can always “cheat” in the theatre of your own mind - the key is to constantly touch ground truth by trying things and noticing the actual outcomes. Choosing a destination and then working out the path empirically is much better than choosing a path because it’s comfortable and denying that it won’t get you where you want.
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