Andrew
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Andrew
@r930596
I know you want to block me after leaving one last reply - Just know that I accept your surrender!
Katılım Nisan 2025
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I have legit to see a leftist use the phrase toxic masculinity. Was it said once by a vaguely liberal person in 2015 and then the right has used it nonstop since then?
Trad West@trad_west_
Is this what they call "toxic" masculinity?
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@SpeedWatkins Waiting for something "of substance" to support his claim that he has a mind.
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Look, I hear your arguments, but the conclusion is a non-sequitur, because the premises are pure speculation disguised as reasoning.

Shawn "All Outta Bubblegum" McClure@McClureShawn
Resorting to cosmological, ontological, teleological, or transcendental arguments for God is a capitulation to the fact that you have nothing of substance to support the non-sequitur "God exists" and are instead appealing to pure speculation under the specious guise of reasoning.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 Well you said we learn more as time goes when I asked you if you only treat people with kindness because someone told you to in kindergarten.. but that learning didn't involve questions? Lol, fascinating.
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Questions about kindergarten principles, not learning in general.
Your repeated inability to follow along is both tedious and boring.
Thus, I wish you a good day.
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We understand it. We just reject the hidden premise you lot keep sneaking in: that morality needs a god to exist in the first place.
Humans can reason about harm, fairness, consent and wellbeing without pretending slavery, genocide, and eternal torture become “moral” because a deity allegedly approved them.
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus
This would* really upset atheists if they could understand it.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 Well you said if someone asks a question that means they can't follow or are too stupid to remember what they were told to do in kindergarten, then you said it's a continuous learning process, so I'm just wondering..
I guess you just never made it out of kindergarten
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Sorry, I’m not realLy into engaging with stupid questions.
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@jakeshieldsajj "bro they went from unbelievably poor to unbelievably poor but slightly less. We should destroy the West!"
You people are just cartoon characters.
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@l_i_n_d_z__ Lol, my negativity is the foundation of my happiness. Of course I'm excited for the future, I trust my negativity to propel me forward.
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@ChristianHeiens Very true, and why "the right" doesn't really mean much. Christian Nationalism actually stands for something.
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The average conservative activist or influencer doesn’t ask “What is my role is in this long-term collective struggle?”
They ask “What maximizes my social standing right now?”
For all the talk of respecting hierarchy on the Right, the modern Right is one of the least hierarchical movements in history.
There is no unified goal, no cohesive effort, no great mass of people willing to form themselves into a single boxing glove because all of us want to be the boxer and none of us can agree on where the punches should be thrown.
The only thing that defines “the Right” is that all of us stand in opposition to Left. That’s it. And that’s just not enough to actually achieve anything.
Think about how many factions in Russia were defined by simply “not being a Bolshevik” in 1918. Monarchists, Republicans, Ukrainian secessionists, even other Socialists. They all hated each other almost as much as they hated the Bolsheviks.
Which is why all of them were ultimately destroyed.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 Yah but it doesn't involve questions right? Like in the learning process you don't ask questions, correct?
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Again, it doesn’t take more than a kindergarten level of understanding to know basic principles like harm & fairness.
As far as learning, google it. It’s more complex than I care to address.
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@r930596 @Cuneyt_S_Sevi It very famously has been
I think, therefor I am.
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"Religious person who thinks Atheists 'criticize God' like how one might hate their dad" is a shockingly common type of person
Dr STAN@realBigStanH
Good question
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 Oh so you use more than just your kindergarten principal after all. How do you learn in life, does it involve questioning things or no?
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Learning is lifelong. Experiences are always changing us, even indirectly like witnessing a coworker getting fired for a behavior makes us less likely to repeat it.
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@C130GuyBNA @mattforney The type of moral framework you described is what christian scholars have used for centuries to defend the actions of god and the hebrews in the old testament. Saying his actions were holy or that good because of his nature makes morality arbitrary
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Wrong. This woman killed New Atheism.
If you're not familiar with Rebecca Watson, she's a tenth-tier atheist blogger who kicked up a stink back in 2011 when she went to an atheist conference in Dublin and some dude hit on her in the elevator. She ranted endlessly about how "creepy" he was and how "unsafe" being asked out on a date made her feel and the incident was dubbed "Elevatorgate."
Richard Dawkins waded into the fracas and suggested that being hit on in an elevator wasn't the end of the world. He asked you out, Becky, you weren't interested, end of. This caused everyone to FREAK OUT at Dawkins' "misogyny" and about the supposed problem with "misogyny" in atheism in general, leading large numbers of prominent atheists such as PZ Myers and Jen McCreight to split off into Atheism Plus. Atheism Plus was atheism with a rape whistle, its adherents more focused on fighting da patriarchy then with stuff that...actually has to do with atheism.
That's why atheism collapsed in on itself as a sociopolitical force. The left, per usual, ate themselves alive.

Matthew Schmitz@matthewschmitz
Two things killed the New Atheism. One was a book, one was a meme. x.com/ryanburge/stat…
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@Skeleman71 @Cuneyt_S_Sevi If you consciousness is real why can't it be proven?
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@r930596 @Cuneyt_S_Sevi “If god is real why can’t that be proven” is actually a really solid argument
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Yes, harm and fairness requires only a kindergarten level of understanding.
This doesn’t mean that reason doesn’t evolve with age.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 You said we just needed our kindergarten principal and that was it.
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 You think social learning is a one-time event?
Social learning is a process, fine tuned through social interactions throughout life.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 So you treat people fairly because someone told you to before kindergarten?
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 You’re the stating you don’t understand harm & fairness.
I’m pointing out most people learn these by kindergarten.
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@MustachioedF @Cuneyt_S_Sevi "If God real why you don't know my good argument?" I'll add it to the list
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@r930596 @Cuneyt_S_Sevi Seriously, you don't act this obtuse by accident. If your beliefs are so strong, why do you need to keep them away from the actual challenges to them?
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 So your reason that we should treat all people with dignity is because you learned it in kindergarten?
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Clearly your parents didn’t do a very good job teaching you about harm and fairness if you’re asking questions about them on social media.
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@HarryNockz @DeeWaynee94 Lol they were taught to me by my parents way before kindergarten
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@r930596 @DeeWaynee94 Harm, fairness and other basic moral principles are taught starting in kindergarten, and continued in elementary school for those who need it.
You haven’t learned these if you questions about them.
Attacking my parents is a red herring ad hominem.
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