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random_c
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random_c
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Follows without interaction will be blocked. I like sheep crafts, languages, history and star wars.
Manchester-ish Katılım Aralık 2006
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@random_c @NickyZog @SteelCat Indeed. & they seem to have NO IDEA UK INITIATED & AGREED TO MOST OF THOSE LAWS or they wouldn't BE laws! UK had a VETO (which Scotland does not have!) & had more 'opt-outs' than any other EU country & would not have to sign up to laws they didn't want to! This was political LIES
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@thecindynoir He may have other qualities she values more. Maybe shes awful in her own ways and he puts up with and makes up for that so they work well together. Or maybe she's never seen an example of a relationship where the man isnt basically a child who will never grow up...
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@Mithradates23 @lingerie_addict @maysoonkhan If youve not seen these responses already...
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Marco Villalta@Villtin
There's a very important counterpoint to this, and that is that most if not all of that labour would be *unpaid*. There definitely were professional spinners and weavers in the Iron Age, but they would make speciality fabrics. Basic fabrics would be made at home, by *everyone*.
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Having a thread about a stone age girl going viral and having a thread about the fashion industry going viral makes me want to do a thread connecting both of these subjects to talk about one of my favorite prehistoric articles of clothing: the Lendbreen Tunic.
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@misdivided @lingerie_addict Right now I'm not even in the same country as the loom-in-potentia, it's something I'll be doing after I finally manage to emigrate.
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@misdivided @lingerie_addict I literally just have some bits of tree lurking in the garage that we cut down last week...
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@Mithradates23 @lingerie_addict @maysoonkhan The spinners on the reproduction got paid. And when I first saw this a while ago, I looked at the times given and the value stated and worked out they were paying people the equivalent of £40/hr to spin.
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@clayohr @lingerie_addict Remember everyone would have been doing it from when they were small children, and doing it all the time their hands weren't occupied. Its surprising how much i get spun at a reenactment event - I've spun enough that I can spin wool sewing thread it while walking.
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@lingerie_addict @maysoonkhan Even so still iffy. When I first saw this, I worked out that I get paid considerably less than they paid their spinners for my IT work. And spin much faster, unless they were including combing time (It didnt say that I could see)
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@maysoonkhan People weren’t exchanging money or paying a dedicated tailor for clothes. These were daily use garments made by and for the community. The monetary figure is meant to give modern people who do exchange hours for dollars a sense of what that labor is worth in familiar terms.
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@Villtin Personally I think what it more highlights is that domestic labour is not valued (see prices of last pro shetland shawl knitter and time taken) and never really has been. Even the high-end tapestries and embroidery in fancy materials rich women did isnt seen as 'art' just 'craft'
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@random_c I… can see her point, but the researchers' estimate is still way off. I'd guess it'd be more like 600 hours of work for actual domestic spinners and weavers at the time, and no more than $20 per hour, maybe $30 tops? So $12'000-18'000, *assuming modern wages*.
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There's a very important counterpoint to this, and that is that most if not all of that labour would be *unpaid*. There definitely were professional spinners and weavers in the Iron Age, but they would make speciality fabrics. Basic fabrics would be made at home, by *everyone*.
Cora Harrington@CoraCHarrington
760 hours to weave a plain tunic with no embellishments or fanciness at all. Just up a straight up t-shape. At the time this garment was made, the value of that labor was 380,000 NOK. In US dollars, that's almost $38,000. (Yes, I know the currency conversion isn't exact.)
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(I've been told that in Viking Age Scandinavia and Britain, combing wool to prepare it to be spun was seen as a task suited for men. I'm pretty bad at using wool combs, though, even though @random_c has tried to teach me.)
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@_kafeicreme @dootledood Rules are important... if they make sense. Any that dont will be ignored unless there are severe penalties for that.
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@dootledood And I'm sure you know, my autistic fellow, that for other autistic people, rules are bullshit. Both exists so why bother mentionning it, if people need self diag that's fine and it's not our place to determine if someone's faking it
And if some people rly do it,just ignore them
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