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keyboard warrior

keyboard warrior

@realkeywarrior

Take me seriously at your own peril.

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Haseeb >|<@hosseeb·
This argument by @deanwball is being badly misunderstood. It's OK to disagree with it, but first you have to actually understand what he's saying. He's saying: releasing the weights for a frontier-level model is effectively dumping. Dumping is when you sell a product at significantly below cost in order to corner market share. It's illegal. The reason: dumping results in short-term consumer surplus, but long-term it prevents the formation of a competitive market and discourages capex outside of the dumper. Standard Oil famously did this in order to consolidate the oil market before it was broken up. So why is he claiming releasing the weights of a frontier level model is basically dumping? Isn't he just describing open source? His argument: it's not financially sustainable to train a frontier model and release the weights. In the long run, you will not be able to internalize enough of the gains given the cost of training a frontier model, because neoclouds and other inference providers will be able to outcompete you at actually serving the model. It costs an astronomical amount of money to train frontier models, and if everyone else can serve them, you don't capture enough of the surplus to pay for the training and R&D. It's not like normal open source when you build some software and then release it and sell services on top of it. The amount of capex required for frontier-level models is an order of magnitude higher than normal software, which is why doing this at frontier level is so economically irrational. Right now the Hong Kong stock market is ebullient enough that Chinese AI companies are not getting punished for the fact that they're all deeply, deeply unprofitable. Releasing model weights is great marketing, intellectually appealing, and strikes fear into the hearts of their opponents. We can assume the status quo continues for a while because of the AI supercycle. But eventually the AI market will correct, the Hong Kong market will dump, and suddenly these Chinese labs won't be able to afford to training super expensive models without internalizing more of the gains. But what if China, seeing that this strategy is successfully kneecapping the US lead (by discouraging further capex and lowering valuations), says no--don't stop. And so the Chinese government starts buying up the shares of these companies and demanding that they continue releasing frontier-level weights, profitable or not. In that case, it becomes a genuine space race. For-profit companies cannot continue to compete on either side. US labs valuations fall, and the White House realizes that to keep their advantage in the AI race, they cannot rely on the free market to maintain their lead. They nationalize the labs and fund them off government subsidies. Now you have government-controlled and distributed models on both sides. That's what Dean is calling the "dystopian hellscape." The best analogy is drug development: if China were to sell American drugs back to us really cheaply, that would result in a large short-term consumer surplus. Cheap Viagra and Ozempic is obviously great. But in the long run, this would discourage investment in developing new drugs. That's the sense that Dean is saying it's long-term "decel." Now, I happen to disagree with Dean. I think the consumer surplus of having frontier-level open weight models is huge, even at the current capabilities. I also think China is going to defect from this strategy soon (there's been reporting along these lines, that Beijing will stop allowing large models to be open-weight; I think there are other reasons for this aside from competition). I also suspect that nationalization of labs is inevitable as they take on more geopolitical and cyber capabilities. But he's not wrong--releasing frontier-level weight models is weird. The question of how long this market will remain profit-driven is a very coherent question to ask.
martin_casado@martin_casado

"Open-weight models are inherently decelerationist" .... this is a grossly incorrect statement with no supporting arguments or logic that is counter to the long arc of learnings of the industry over the last 50 years. What a stupid thing to say.

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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@rsalakhu @docmilanfar Bravo. I would have exploded if someone comments on me like Mr. Milanfar talked about you. If advisors are not important for PhD students, why would they kill each other to be advised by superstar professors like yourself?
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Russ Salakhutdinov
Russ Salakhutdinov@rsalakhu·
Lol I think Peyman @docmilanfar really likes me. I don't actually know him, but I'm deeply honored by his encyclopedic knowledge of my academic and industry career 😆. But jokes aside, my current and former students at CMU (and Toronto) are absolutely exceptional, self-directed, very independent in shaping and driving their own research agenda, and with impeccable work ethic, much like so many students at CMU. A student's success is also determined not only by their advisor, but also by the environment in which they grow. There is something genuinely special about CMU. It is a very collaborative place with an extraordinary concentration of talented, hardworking, and motivated students. Doing PhD is never easy, it is a lot of very very hard work, especially at a place like CMU. But many of these students will go on to become leaders in academia and industry, professors at top universities, founders, CEOs, and pioneers of new fields. And I will certainly continue to celebrate my students’ achievements, their scientific breakthroughs, and the impact they have on the world.
Peyman Milanfar@docmilanfar

While this is an impressive array of talent, over 80% of the researchers Russ brags about were (self-) advised while he was juggling academic duties with major executive roles at Apple or Meta. He's not alone in this respect. Elite programs attract talent that buoys the lab, giving advisors the bandwidth to juggle significant outside roles. I'd be careful about assigning too much credit to the advisor and not enough to the students' raw talent and self-discipline.

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Taylor@TayyarSen·
@clashreport This is such ridiculous comments from a Turk who has really no ide of Europe, what a big bullshit. We have in Europe very successful integration of immigrants and a dynamic industry. Please just care about your own country
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Clash Report@clashreport·
Rector of Türkiye’s National Defense University, Erhan Afyoncu: Europe is no longer "the West" — it has become a cultural zone. It has lost its warfighting capacity, its industrial dynamism, and its population is shrinking. In Norway, 70% of preschool children are not Norwegian by origin. Europe filled its population gap with migrants — but they couldn't assimilate them. Rising racism now brings conflict, but they need those migrants.
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@WOLF_Financial If this reflects how they normally pay their employees , I guess the employees are extremely under-paid. How in the world could you expect to keep your employees for 4 years based on $20k retention bonus? Samsung gave each employees $400k with no retention obligation.
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WOLF@WOLF_Financial·
$ASML is giving employees globally a one-time $22,862 bonus ASML will give shares to employees on January 1st that vests at the start of 2030 for staff who stay with the company for the entire period
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@rsalakhu Wow. So Apple was this close to solving their AI problem. Would $100 million have tempted Zhilin? Looking back, Apple probably should have offered $1 billion to him.
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Russ Salakhutdinov
Russ Salakhutdinov@rsalakhu·
I think there's a lot of confusion and misinformation about Zhilin's visa, H1B lottery, immigration, and why he left the U.S. Zhilin had many opportunities to stay in the U.S. if he wanted to. In fact, I was on an email thread with a senior Apple exec (Tim Cook's reports) asking whether Zhilin would consider joining Apple. I said that he wanted to go back to his homeland. The response was, well, we have an office in Beijing if he'd like to join there. But Zhilin was quite determined to go back and build a startup. I remember him telling me that if he didn't at least try starting his own company, he would regret it for the rest of his life. I respect that, and he was right. Many of my international PhD students do choose to stay in the U.S. Of course the U.S. immigration process can be quite intimidating and uncertain, even for superstar PhD graduates from places like CMU.
signüll@signulll

kimi’s founder & ceo got his phd at cmu. why didn’t he stay in america?!

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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@SenSanders True to his form. Senator Sanders never misses an opportunity to virtue-signal by spending other people's money. You are a filthy-rich multimillionaire. Why cannot you donate at least 75% of your money to low-income families?
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Sen. Bernie Sanders@SenSanders·
Sergey Brin is worth $276 billion. He could save healthcare for 3 million people. Instead, he’s spending $82 million against California’s 5% billionaire wealth tax. He’d rather see low-income Americans die & suffer than pay his fair share of taxes. That is a moral obscenity.
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@kamisafk50234 @AGJamesUthmeier So the name is Trump and the evidence is “I don’t know, but it must be in the unreleased files that Biden had studied for four years”. Got it. I am sure that is sufficient to arrest Trump.
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Kamisafk@kamisafk50234·
@realkeywarrior @AGJamesUthmeier Well for one, why was Epstein’s jet found in Cobb county and was being investigated by the faa? Why was Trump using that same jet years later? So many questions but also 3 mil pages still haven’t been released. I think Epstein was hiding out in Cobb county Georgia
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BolgoTheSinner
BolgoTheSinner@BolgoTheGreat·
@rsalakhu Time to stop allowing these foreign nationals into our country if they’re not going to benefit America and Americans. Train Americans. Not their foreign adversaries. Period.
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@MotivacionesF Why would the coach have done this to a player? He didn’t have to select him for the team in the first place if he didn’t like him.
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Motivaciones Fútbol@MotivacionesF·
¡LA HISTORIA MÁS TRISTE DE ESTE MUNDIAL! 💔 N’Golo Kanté le dice adiós a la Copa del Mundo sin haber disputado ni un solo minuto. El campeón del mundo fue convocado, pero Didier Deschamps decidió no darle participación en todo el torneo. Ni siquiera en el partido por el tercer puesto, donde muchos esperaban verlo despedirse dentro del campo. Así termina el último Mundial de uno de los futbolistas más queridos y humildes de su generación. Gracias por todo, N’Golo Kanté 🇫🇷👏
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Kamisafk@kamisafk50234·
@AGJamesUthmeier So they keep getting arrested to keep us distracted from the fact that no one in the files have been arrested and this is supposed to satisfy us? Who gives a fuck?
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David Marcus@BlueBoxDave·
The extremely white line to see Bernie, AOC and Abdul, in Detroit right now.
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@TRobinsonNewEra They can claim at the extradition hearing that UK has no rule of law nor freedom of speech, but has two-tier policing. The extradition may be overruled.
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Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧
Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧@TRobinsonNewEra·
Andrew and Tristan Tate have been arrested in Miami after an extradition request from the UK government
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Wes@TeslaTrip·
@elonmusk @wholemars Uh, no. Why on earth would anyone want that? No interventions is the goal. No human controls. No human in the loop.
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Whole Mars Catalog@wholemars·
One thing that really frustrates me is when Tesla Self-Driving exits the carpool lane or express lane and then gets stuck in traffic. As I see everyone else whizzing by in the far left lane, I get extremely annoyed knowing I should be there too. Respect the settings please 🙏
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@elonmusk @wholemars Thank you Elon for listening to your customers. I am seeing a lot of stupid comments on this message of Elon’s. No, whatever you did illegally after turning off FSD will not be recorded and repeated. What will be remembered is the interventions that did not disengage FSD.
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Elon Musk@elonmusk·
@wholemars The car will start to remember your specific interventions and match each person’s individual preferences
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travis kalanick
travis kalanick@travisk·
.@DavidSacks @elonmusk The Chinese models are distilling off American models… my guess is American models can’t legally do this without being sued by Chinese AI companies in American courts .. 🤔.. and distilling a Chinese model is really theft from an American company… What should American AI and IP policy be here? If distillation isn’t enforced against, then everyone should be able to distill from everyone else.. otherwise one arm tied behind American models’ backs. Maybe systems need to get better at preventing distillation techniques, and problem solves itself?
Denise Wu@denisewu

There’s a large grain of salt!🧂 Kimi is still calling itself Claude.

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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@OfficialVizeh The ecstasy of English fans inside the Miami Gardens stadium gives the lie to the claim that it is a meaningless game.
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𝙇𝙞𝙖𝙢@OfficialVizeh·
Not a single person is watching this France-England game right
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@NileGardiner Why does England need the Falkland? You guys abandoned it once, so you can abandon it one more time. You gave up India, Hong Kong, and all the other bigger and more prosperous colonies willingly, what is so special about small barren islands in South America?
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@TheCroatian_ Why isn’t achieving the best result in soccer for England in 60 years something worth doing? Sure they can try getting to the final in another 60 years, but most current fans will have passed to the next world by then.
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TheCroatian@TheCroatian_·
Davor Šuker on Tuchel's comment that neither England nor France want to play in the match for 3rd place: "I think the rich don't want to play when they lose. After 1998, when we played the Netherlands for third place, we fought for that bronze medal, and today I can still speak about it with pride. Some people have won so many trophies and are so wealthy that this match means nothing to them. My message to them is: be quiet, respect all 211 participants, and understand that the world doesn't belong only to them. It belongs to the middle-sized nations, the smaller ones, and to everyone who loves football." "Whoever wins third place tomorrow, I assure you that in 20 years, when they're older, they'll still remember that bronze medal. That's why, in this whole story, coach Tuchel doesn't matter. He's talking nonsense." [@tancredipalmeri]
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@piersmorgan Ask Egypt, Norway, or the Netherlands whether they would love the chance to win a bronze medal in the World Cup.
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Piers Morgan@piersmorgan·
Can you imagine anything worse for a top footballer than being forced to stay on at a tournament after being knocked out, to see who’s the best loser in the 3rd place play-off? My deepest sympathies with Harry Kane and the boys. Must be awful.
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keyboard warrior@realkeywarrior·
@RafHM @JMilei The Brits abandoned the Falkland in 1774 and invaded it in 1833 when there was an Argentinian garrison on island. How could Britain claim it after almost 60 years of abandonment of the Falkland?
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Rafe Heydel-Mankoo
You can't "recover" something you never had, @JMilei The British are the INDIGENOUS peoples of the previously uninhabited Falkland Islands (same principle used for the Maori who settled in N.Z.) They have the inalienable right to self determination. In the 2013 referendum 99.8% voted to remain under the British crown The Falklands are as far from Argentina as North Africa is from the UK. Claims of rightful ownership due to "proximity" are absurd. Never forget: Britain’s discovery and settlement rights over the Falklands long predate your state's existence. The islands were never part of the Argentine Republic’s inherited Spanish colonial territory. Spain had abandoned the islands long before. 🇫🇰🇬🇧🇫🇰🇬🇧
POLITICOEurope@POLITICOEurope

Argentine President Javier Milei yesterday declared that his government is “getting closer every day” to recovering sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, escalating a diplomatic row stemming from Argentina’s World Cup victory over England. politico.eu/article/javier…

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