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Based Hamikdash
Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @tim_fielding7 @Greybush98617 @bassie_hd @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Statehood isn't "unworkable" under the frameworks that were offered. Of course it would have to come with some compromises from both sides that's how negotiating works. But these are much more serious efforts than a reference, in a paragraph that explicitly rejects the 2ss.
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PooToe69
PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @tim_fielding7 @Greybush98617 @bassie_hd @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok “Intent” isn’t just making offers, it’s whether terms allow a viable, sovereign state. Proposals alongside continued settlement expansion and control undermine that. A single “reference” ≠ offers, but multiple offers ≠ genuine intent if conditions make statehood unworkable.
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Darcy1060@darcy106046123·
The short history of the “Palestinian” people is soaked with the blood of the innocents. It is hardly surprising as to why 22 Arab countries don’t let them in.
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Based Hamikdash
Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @tim_fielding7 @Greybush98617 @bassie_hd @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok "Limits on borders, sovereignty eyc" for both people that's literally the concept of a 2ss But I'm not arguing about whether they should have been accepted I'm responding to your claim that Israel showed "little intent" when many offers have been made-how does a reference compare
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @tim_fielding7 @Greybush98617 @bassie_hd @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Those “offers” often came with limits on borders, sovereignty, and control over airspace, resources, and movement, so Palestinians didn’t see them as viable states. Meanwhile, Hamas’s 2017 document references 1967 borders. The failure isn’t one-sided, both sides rejected terms.
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Based Hamikdash
Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @tim_fielding7 @Greybush98617 @bassie_hd @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok "little intent?" Israel has made actual,real offers for a two state solution All have been rejected. Hamas have proposed none. Is a "reference" in paragraph which explicitly asserts never accepting a 2ss really comparable to what 5 real offers from Israel for a 2ss?
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Civil rights may be intact, so we can focus on the Nation-State Law. How it shapes national identity, prioritizes Jewish self-determination, and affects policy toward minorities is where the real debate lies. Right to National self determination unique to Jews for example.
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Based Hamikdash
Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok That wasn't the point, that's a new point you introduced to deflect from the original which was specifically their rights and what they can do but since we now agree on those I'm happy to move onto a discussion about the nation state law. Did you have a specific question?
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
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PooToe69
PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Youre framing it narrowly. Inequality isnt always a single banned act. For example,the Nation-State Law says national self determination in Israel is exclusive to Jews & downgraded Arabic from an official language,embedding unequal national status even while voting rights remain
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Sorry but you're avoiding the question again, it's pretty simple. Name a thing an Arab citizen of Israel can't do that any other citizens can. You can in: Apartheid south Africa - voting Jim crow - serve on juries Dhimitude - public Jewish prayer Iran today - women showing hair
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Courts exist, but structural inequality still appears in law and policy. The Nation-State Law defines national self determination in Israel as exclusive to Jews. So non Jew citizens can vote, yet the state legally grants collective national rights to one group only.
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Based Hamikdash
Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@cagecode13 @DMichaelTripi Lol so you want to destroy what America is and was founded to be 🤭 How are you any better than the scary boogyman joos from your nightmares?
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Dead Ned
Dead Ned@cagecode13·
@DMichaelTripi We need an American dictatorship. It’s the only way to save the country.
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok That's also not a legal restriction on their rights even if JNF often acts unfairly, Arab Israeli citizens have in fact taken them to court over that and won. So still no example of an actual thing Arab citizens don't have the right to do but other citizens do. Why do you think?
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PooToe69
PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Sure no more wanking. Another example involves land access. About 93% of land in Israel is administered by bodies like the Jewish National Fund, whose charter prioritizes Jewish settlement. In practice, many Palestinian citizens face restrictions leasing or living on those lands.
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@Qnsdad @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Lack of wanking aside, you've still not answered my question as an example of something an Arab citizen of Israel cannot do that another citizen can do. Easy to find examples in South African Apartheid, or Jim Crow with,or Jews under dhimitude Why not here?
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Sure since I'm not a bloody wanker. The Nation State Law declares national self determination in Israel as unique to the Jewish people. Palestinian citizens can vote, but the state legally defines national rights as belonging only to Jews, creating unequal civic status in law.
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PooToe69@Qnsdad·
@reallhere @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @Michael__Baskin @yes_we_cat @artstop @RabbiB24031 @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Palestinian citizens of Israel can vote, but many rights tied to land and nationality differ. Family unification with spouses from the occupied territories is heavily restricted under the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law, which primarily affects Palestinian citizens.
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
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Based Hamikdash@reallhere·
@cagecode13 @yes_we_cat @Michael__Baskin @Qnsdad @RabbiB24031 @bassie_hd @Greybush98617 @tim_fielding7 @naltiw2 @RobCapFinancial @artstop @darcy106046123 @Comnsense2 @jvgraz @P3ng1z @Berenger_x @MikailBaskin @soc_justice1 @thechrislarsen @Ronisonit @KnottSeeDonny @LetsMakANewDeal @realDavidGold17 @AlGhanadreh_2 @Birrigand @GaganisVas @plebrockcap @E4BCLL @SallyWisemann @PepperWingate @JonahIvriAnochi @UN @acuriouslad345 @KnotSeeDonny @Thamesville @Ronbackonit @DavidGo49819478 @grok Lol lil nazi boo getting so triggered from me repeating the same thing😅 I don't go along with your cowardly deflections My position is that Hamas broke an existing ceasefire on Oct7 by striking first and declaring a war of choice Can you prove that wrong? Or will you run again🤭
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Dead Ned
Dead Ned@cagecode13·
That’s not what you said jew. It doesn’t matter why you say, you were born a liar and will lie until the day you die. The world knows 10/7 was an inside job anyway to get the genocide started. And grok is jewish and it still tells us that Israel has violated THOUSANDS of cease fires. 🤡
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