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Left: From-scratch debug build, launching target, and stepping with RADDBG.
Right: Launching target & stepping with Visual Studio 2022.
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Ryan Fleury
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Ryan Fleury
@rfleury
RJF // @dgtlgrove // Making RAD Debugger at @radgametools in @epicgames (opinions my own)
Washington, USA Katılım Kasım 2016
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No matter how you slice it, “dlopen” and “module systems” have literally nothing to do with the performance characteristics of an architecture on their own, other than the fact that they introduce costs (rather than mitigate them). They’re a tool for code reuse and composability between independently written modules, they certainly aren’t “high performance” or something like that. That is nonsensical.
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@Mallchad @rfleury @realpastaya "we" do no such thing. Almost every high performance system uses dlopen and a module system (eg: postgres, nginx, etc, etc ad nausem)
You're just totally wrong about this.
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why did they create dynamic linking then? no shit bro its obviously useful (for stuff like raylib, sdl, os apis, etc...)
no way im gonna statically link os apis
kache@yacineMTB
Everything should be statically linked. Dynamic linking is idiotic
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@rfleury @tautologer How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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asking an llm how many letters are in a word is like asking a person what wavelength of light a color is
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For the 10,000th time, for consumer/developer personal computers, a kernel =/= a platform. Yes, the kernel ABI is stable. The "libraries" you are referring to implement things which are completely stable and well-defined on Windows, which are necessary for regular application programming - like thread-local-storage, or DLL loading, or main heap allocation. These are "user-space" in the sense that they are above the kernel, but they are not "user-space" in the sense that they ought to be the burden of a decentralized network of library developers.
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Проблема в ABI не к ядру Linux, а к библиотекам. К glibc который поменял ABI. Вот к ним все вопросы.
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Когда я слышу что ABI в Linux не стабильно - это 🤦. В Linux как раз наоборот ABI стабильно на уровне системных вызовов ОС (в отличие от Windows где используют костыль ntdll.dll) и они не изменились за кучу лет.
gingerBill@TheGingerBill
I don't know if a lot of people have thought why this happened. To make Linux viable for the layman, Valve had to make Proton (derived from Wine) so that Win32 API became the first and only stable ABI on Linux. Why did Linux Distro devs not care about stable ABI historically?
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They hid my reply by accident it seems. It’d be helpful for some people to show it to them again, since I think it will help them.
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@ocornut @cmuratori We will be batch-deleting accounts. N-element thinking
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@cmuratori @rfleury Maybe put them in an arena so you don’t have to get all those accounts deleted individually.
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@rfleury There's a problem with "delete your account" that I just realized. If a grifter actually does delete their account, then they don't have to put up with X replies anymore. Which means they get to go have a normal life, while we're sitting here taking it in the face :(
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@JohnDunlap2 The problem is ultimately that a kernel is not meaningfully a platform in the consumer/developer personal computer space.
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This post gives me a headache. At some people started calling important userland libraries and services the ABI. Linux kernel gives the “stable” abi. Are we calling the behavior of various libraries the abi? The argument is correct I just wouldn’t call the culprit the Abi.
gingerBill@TheGingerBill
I don't know if a lot of people have thought why this happened. To make Linux viable for the layman, Valve had to make Proton (derived from Wine) so that Win32 API became the first and only stable ABI on Linux. Why did Linux Distro devs not care about stable ABI historically?
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@markasduplicate @kenwheeler @sahill_og We need good response times if we’re ever going to clean up this mess
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@sssmcgrath @nucknyan Delete it, recreate it, and delete it again
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@sahill_og My thinking is that the first thing it’ll do is delete your account
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@yacineMTB @elliotarledge Yeah. Buy a Windows laptop instead like Yacine
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@cmuratori > The modern Run dialog is slowly rolling out
no shit.
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Just want to make sure I'm reading this right: Microsoft rewrote the run dialog with performance "top-of-mind", and the best they could manage to do when putting up a single text box was 10fps?
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so many AI updates,
which AI tool is actually the best right now?
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What do you do if someone on your team is using AI negligently?
I.e. not reviewing, not caring, leaning into the slop.
This, of course, was a problem pre-AI. But the "code is cheap" mind virus is making it worse IMO.
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@ArisPulse We need a summary to convince bystanders who are unfamiliar with the material
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The Start Menu, the Run dialog, and the PowerToys Command Palette are all Conway-predicted, fragmentary implementations of the same underlying concept: the Everything Palette. People yearn for the Everything Palette.
Ryan Fleury@rfleury
Palettes should be first class functionality provided by the operating system for any program.
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