Roadcoconut

@spl1tknuckle @ShadowB3e @shinjinnies @shsesmoothie He’s an asshole who thinks he’s edgy

@ShadowB3e @shinjinnies @shsesmoothie im still genuinely baffled by why you, personally, feel compelled to say all this on op's post about their discomfort. like, what compels you to interact with another person in this way

so this isn’t cool at all.

@TreborJoss @Ole_is_right I suggest google if you don’t know what the word “liable” means

@roadcoconut @Ole_is_right If something is painful to hold, no rationale person would then transfer it to between their thighs.

Yall remember that McDonald’s hot coffee case a few years back? Where a woman sued the restaurant because her coffee was too hot; she won a couple million bucks; and everyone said the result was an indictment of the American legal system, because people shouldn’t be so litigious. But, in reality, the plaintiff in that case suffered horrific, life altering burns across 20-30% of her body, which required several days in the hospital, multiple years of disability, and skin grafting operations. The Alani case *may* prove to be a similar story. The lawsuit doesn’t say “kid drank caffeine. Kid died. Money please.” The allegations are that the company which distributes and markets Alani, falsely labels it as a heath and wellness drink— particularly targeting that advertisement to kids via things like influencer campaigns (which are more likely to have a younger audience). Despite this marketing, the drinks have significantly more caffeine than the rest of the market (having 200mg of caffeine, compared to 160mg in Monster, or 80mg in Red Bull). Equally, the girl who passed away had no preexisting heart conditions, and there’s plenary evidence that she was swayed by the aforementioned marketing. The case isn’t 1:1 with McDonalds and the coffee— hell, the causes of action that are most likely to carry the day, aren’t even the same. But the perception of the cases, certainly rhymes. To the extent that people want companies to behave ethically and safely (which is something we all want), lawsuits like this serve the purpose of sitting down lines as to the proverbial rules of the game. At why point does influencer marketing towards kids, on a product that is even labeled as being dangerous for kids— start to run afoul of law and common sensibilities? Honestly, that’s not my place to answer— it’s the jury’s. Everyone can have their opinion on whether this type of conduct is okay. But, the lawsuit is far from frivolous, or shaking a money tree.

@TreborJoss @Ole_is_right As I said

@roadcoconut @Ole_is_right It did not go directly between her thighs, she handled the hot cup of coffee prior to placing it between her legs. It never crossed her mind that the coffee was very hot, She has some responsibility for placing it between her legs.

@TreborJoss @Ole_is_right And it wasn’t just painful to hold. It was so hot that it caused 2nd and 3rd degree burns, fused her labia together, required multiple skin grafts, and a stint in rehab. And even with all that, the reason she sued is because McDonalds refused to pay her medical bills

@TreborJoss @Ole_is_right Yes and she was found partially liable for that McDonalds, however, had hundreds of reports of prior injuries due to the coffee being too hot. They chose to keep it well above industry standard because people drank fewer free refills.

@Rivergothic @ronin21btc Did you miss your adderall, Jackie? Because what else would make you think this is an appropriate response to a woman whose children don’t know the ends of abusive sayings?

@ronin21btc What a bitch. A little ungrateful bitch. Don't worry. She thinks her children will grow up so well adjusted? Her hatred will be reflected back at her by them. God does not like to be mocked. What is the mockery? Thumbing your nose at: "Honor thy Father and Mother."

Waking up to the fact boomers were awful at being parents

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell I mean, you’ve proven through the thread that you either don’t care about or can’t understand boundaries It’s clear you think little of women beyond a conquest because that’s what whatever shit hole, red pill part of society you’re part of says Good luck & stop being a pos 🫡

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell And its worth pointing out: do I think genuine rapists who don’t care about boundaries exist? Yes Do I think most men are genuine rapists who don’t care about boundaries? No.

91% is a lot

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell No. There’s no muddied waters If someone tells you no, that’s it. You got your answer.

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell But then the waters get muddied with people saying “oh women are just aloof” and “oh you gotta be persistent” It takes time (and mistakes unfortunately) to unlearn what you learned.

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Because your definition is just rape. That’s not anyone else’s, aside from rapists, version

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Ok all of that is true and i’m not denying that coercion isn’t rape: the study just isn’t addressing how “game” is rebranded coercion which feeds into my point of “this existing because of male-expectations”. That’s my whole point

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Dude, look in the mirror. Your making excuses and crying that coercion isn’t rape because people you know don’t think it is

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell And I get that sounds insane to provide an human explanation to a monstrous behavior but it’s just fact that people are usually made: not born Again ppl like true crime cuz they generally wanna know what pushed them to do this

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell We’re talking specifically about rape. And your inability to accept that coercion is a form of rape

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell I’m not blame-shifting or absolving men of any responsibility. I just strongly disagree with the narrative that “men do this, because they are men” Just talking about violent crime statistics isn’t doing anything. The discussion needs to be “why & what can we do?”

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell That’s why teaching consent during sex ed is important. Because some people, apparently like yourself and anyone you’ve ever interacted with, refuse to accept they’re part of the problem

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell If we actually want to fix systemic issues like this, we need to workout factors causing that because ppl are products of their environment. Even rapists & murders (its why ppl are so engaged with true crime cuz they have a desire to know why)

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Really seems like you are, bud Are you a child? Because your inability to accept that if you’ve coerced women into sex that’s rape is a problem. The obsession with your concept “game” is fucking pathetic and clearly shows you’re too immature to be having sex

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell That’s fine you can berate rapists but i’m not one. I’m not even defending rape I just have issue with them counting coercion which they aren’t wrong per se, but they need to highlight that its basically our concept of “game”

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell That’s not what game is. Game has more to do with your personality, ability to flirt, finding women who WANT to sleep with you. Begging for sex or coercing someone into it, is the literal opposite of that

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Again: the concept of “game” is just rebranded coercion. Do you deny the existence of game? This is my whole point: people are products of their environment and the study is correct that counts, but it also needs to address that as a potential factor CAUSING the 91%!

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell JFC If you’re getting indirect signals that show a woman isn’t in to it. Stop I’m really not sure why this is tough for you. If you have to beg for it, you shouldn’t want it. If she’s not into it, you shouldn’t want it.

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell -I don’t know if it’s addressing that part because it is important as that’s possibly WHY coercion occurs. Women are also taught to be submissive and saying “no” is uncomfortable for them and a lot of them from my experience use indirect signs

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Coercion is literal rape. If you don’t have ENTHUSIASTIC consent, stop. Keep your dick in your pants “Getting laid” is only on a pedestal for people too immature for sex. If all you want is an orgasm, you have a hand. Sex is something both people should want and enjoy

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell I’m not justifying literal rape dude! That’s not what i’m saying! The study counts “coercion” and game really is just rebranded coercion dude. We put getting laid on a pedestal and the concept of game exists for a reason and while it does technically count: my issue is-

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell And yes, I do berate rapists. They’re asking for it, if you will

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell I’m not blaming everyone else: people are products of their environment just like your claiming to be and I feel like we generally do not provide a good “environment” to teach men how to be people You clearly weren’t taught how to have discussion cuz you’re just berating

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Everyone has gender expectations. Raping people isn’t a gender expectation

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell Great for you that you were given a better starting line but i’m saying a lot of men are not: Men are socialized worse on average & still have patriarchal gender expectations. Just because you didn’t go through that doesn’t mean its not the norm

@JoshuaMoney15 @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell No. Again you’re justifying rape and we’re not going to do that You got the shit end of the stick, sucks. Grow up and stop blaming everything and everyone else. You hear no, you stop

@roadcoconut @MorganaLeBae @assoc1counsell An analogy: men are generally taught to be chefs, women food critics. Most men are not raised with good cooking skills and we’re told we have to be and not every single dish is going to be perfect on the path to make good food. Do you understand my drift?