Rob Alsobrook

@MikeWingerii Another way to say this is, @PETAUK disagrees with over 50-55% of the world’s population (Christians, Muslims, & Jews combined) that people are made in God’s image.

Humans are superior to all other animal species. Only mankind is made in God’s image.

What concerns you more, “alien beings” or Bill Gates and the globalist agenda for one world government?

@Logos Haggai,… it’s short and easily bridges the old covenant to the new fulfilled in Jesus Christ

If you were introducing someone to the OT for the first time, which book would you start with — and why?

@Dmtaylor125 @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Conflation? Nope. 👎

@robalso @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons So why did you conflate the two in your previous post?

Great treatment here by @Godlovesmormons concerning the subject of Sola Scriptura as it pertains to Protestant vs. LDS understanding. youtu.be/UZI5326VLr8?si…

@Dmtaylor125 @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Correct.

@robalso @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Justification isn't the same as sanctification

“Faith apart from works” is literally biblical: “We hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.” (Rom 3:28) “To the one who does not work but believes… his faith is counted as righteousness.” (Rom 4:5) “By grace you have been saved through faith… not a result of works.” (Eph 2:8-9) Works are the fruit of salvation, not the basis of it. But, Mormonism reverses that by making exaltation contingent on ordinances, covenant-keeping, and enduring worthiness. That’s why the Bible calls it “another gospel” (Gal1:8-9).

@robalso @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons “Faith apart from works” is not biblical homie. Grace through faith is biblical. Why are you doing this to yourself?

@NavarreVal @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Never said such a thing.

@robalso @GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Telling people they can ignore the teachings and commandments of Christ is evil actually.

The biblical gospel is Christ’s finished work fully saving sinners by grace through faith apart from works (Eph 2:8-9; Rom 4:5). The Mormon gospel adds priesthood authority, temple ordinances, covenant-keeping, and enduring worthiness for exaltation. That’s not “good news.” That’s Christ plus your institution. The Bible had a word for that: “another gospel” (Gal 1:8-9).

@robalso @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Our gospel is the redemption of mankind through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. What’s yours? ComeUntoChrist.org

Actually, in my experience in evangelizing Mormons and their missionaries for the past almost 20 years, Mormonism’s gospel is shown to be in clear conflict with Biblical gospel. The gospel according to the Bible proclaims that sinners are fully justified before God by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone b/c His atonement is completely sufficient, whereas Mormonism ultimately conditions one’s highest salvation/exaltation on ordinances, covenant-keeping, priesthood authority, and continued obedience.

@robalso @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons And your video falls apart when people read the Bible and Book of Mormon

@GuyInco15542744 @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons No, I did answer. It’s articulated in the article linked earlier. It’s the same gospel message found in the Bible, friend.

@robalso @WesleyLHuff @Godlovesmormons Btw you didn’t answer

Mormonism is irrefutably heterodox to the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3). I’ll rely on my article as my fuller response, but starts with, “when Joseph Smith claims that an angel appeared to him to deliver another testament, Paul’s warning should send sirens ringing. Whether through angelic vision, revelation, or golden plates (as Smith claimed), if the message contradicts the once-for-all gospel delivered by Christ and His apostles, it is, according to Scripture, under a curse.” open.substack.com/pub/docilitas/…

@robalso @RwBneck69 @jaredadairbell Well... obviously He did! You do not have to accept it, but the gospel of Jesus Christ will continue to grow and go forth throughout the world. This is His work, and nothing will stop it. You are invited to come and see!

I could talk about the Great Apostasy for days. I think It’s one of the most interesting topics of conversation for Latter-day Saints. Saying “Jesus failed” when the Church apostatized is like saying “God failed” when Adam and Eve partook of the fruit.

“If Jesus’ priesthood is permanent and untransferable, why is another priesthood necessary?” (per Hebrews 7:24-25). Question I asked Mormon missionaries today

You’re lucking out. This is my last tweet of the evening (it’s almost midnight here in Tokyo). Your response sidesteps the core conflict. Jesus did not promise ongoing new revelations through prophets after the apostles, nor a cyclical restoration whenever men corrupt His church. He promised to build His church so the gates of hell would not prevail (Matthew 16:18), to be with His people ALWAYS (Matthew 28:20), and that the Holy Spirit would guide believers into all truth (John 16:13). The NT church endures imperfectly (wheat and tares together until harvest) not requiring repeated full restarts.  Your question assumes what the Bible rejects: that God must give new “Thus saith the Lord” revelations post-apostles. Scripture is God-breathed and sufficient for every good work (2 Timothy 3:16-17) though. The canon closed with apostolic eyewitness testimony. God’s Word stands forever (Isaiah 40:8; 1 Peter 1:25). The Holy Spirit preserved the gospel through faithful witnesses, martyrs, and global spread for 1,700+ years—no total darkness, no vanished authority. LDS leaders did teach a complete apostasy necessitating Smith. B.H. Roberts: “Nothing less than a complete apostasy from the Christian religion would warrant the establishment of the Church.” Bruce R. McConkie: the apostasy was “universal, complete, all pervading” and “absolute, total, complete.” Dismissing this while defending the Restoration they justified is inconsistent. Claiming Jesus is “still involved” with new revelations to prophets while asserting the original church lost its fulness is exactly the claim that Jesus’ promises failed and the Bible is insufficient. The pattern of OT Israel does not override Christ’s NT assurances. The Bible needs no 19th-century angelic supplement. Jesus’ church never disappeared in whole or in part.

No, Smith's claims do not require believing Jesus failed... that is a wildly off course statement. Jesus Christ is still very much involved with His church, and revelations have continued from Him to His prophets! If God is unchanging, why would He abruptly change and stop the flow of revelations to His prophets all together? Do you not think He loves all of His children all over the earth? Wouldn't He want His children in America to know about the gospel of Jesus Christ? Japan? Africa?... etc. You didn't answer my question about where are the revelations given to prophets from about 100 to 1800 A.D., if there were no apostasy? Your last paragraph I agree with! The gates of Hell will not prevail against the Lord's church. He will continue leading it personally, forever, and restore what man has corrupted as often as He needs to.

Smith’s claims require believing Jesus failed and the Bible is insufficient. First, the OT cycles of apostasy and restoration for Israel do not parallel the NT church. Jesus promised in Matthew 16:18 that He would build His church and “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” This is not a cyclical pattern where “it falls, God restores later” promise, it’s a guarantee of preservation for the body of true believers. The NT depicts the church as enduring persecution, containing wheat and tares until harvest (Matthew 13), and the gospel advancing to the ends of the earth (Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8). Your “restoration whenever it apostatizes” redefines Jesus’ words to fit Joseph Smith. Second, the “no revelations 100-1800 AD” claim ignores the Bible’s sufficiency. Scripture is “breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16-17), complete for every good work. The canon closed with apostolic testimony. The Holy Spirit preserved the faith through martyrs, creeds affirming core doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ), and global expansion. No new “Thus saith the Lord” revelations were needed b/c God’s Word stands forever (Isaiah 40:8, 1 Peter 1:25). Claiming total darkness requires dismissing nearly 2000 years of faithful witness. Third, on “total” vs. “great” and leader opinions: LDS apostles explicitly taught a complete, universal apostasy. B.H. Roberts: “Nothing less than a complete apostasy from the Christian religion would warrant the establishment of the Church.” Bruce R. McConkie: apostasy was “universal, complete, all pervading.” James E. Talmage documented the loss of priesthood and spiritual power as *total*. Dismissing these as just “opinions” while relying on the restoration they justified is inconsistent, and dishonest w/ all due respect. Your own sources list the standard works (including D&C) as doctrine and they teach the primitive Church’s full apostasy necessitating Smith. The Bible is God’s perfect, complete Word. It needs no 19th century correction from an angel or anything else. Jesus’ church never vanished; imperfect believers persevered by grace. Choose the enduring Word of God over the restoration narrative.

Okay, I'll bite! 2 things... 1. The pattern of apostasy in various degrees is replete within the Bible. A conservative count could identify 6 to 9 times the apostasy cycle happened... Adam to Enoch, Noah and the flood, Tower of Babel, Abrahamic restoration, Israel in Egypt, and the period of the Judges, to name the major ones that come to mind. Every time apostasy happened, God restored it. THAT is what God meant when He said the gates of hell would not prevail against His church... because He would make it whole again. He would NEVER take away the agency of mankind and He allows us to either choose Him or reject Him, as individuals, but also as entire societies. Agency is foundational. Without agency, we would not even need a Savior because we would not be able to choose evil. Agency is VERY important to God. Now, tell me, with the pattern of God calling His prophets to lead people throughout all of Biblical history for thousands of years, and they write the revelations and teachings of God, which became scripture.... where are the revelations and teachings of God in scripture from about 100 to 1800 A.D. if there were, in fact, no apostasy? I am overjoyed to let you know that God called another prophet to restore what was lost/changed since the last apostasy, and that prophet was Joseph Smith. Look at the pattern. EVERY time, prophets are only accepted by a few and mocked by many! See the pattern? Be wise on which side you choose. 2. You do not understand our doctrine when it comes to prophets/apostles/church leaders. I determine this by reading you quoting our leaders and then saying the equivalent to "That's what you believe"! Our leaders have opinions that are just that! Opinions! We ONLY accept our leaders' words as the word of God (meaning a revelation) if it is made known that they are speaking for the Lord, by prefacing a statement with a phrase like 'Thus saith the Lord', or 'A revelation is given...', or something to that nature. These become what is known as a Proclamation, or a Declaration, and only then is it considered our doctrine. Now, having said that, most of what our leaders say is good stuff and most of the time, one could apply their words in their life and feel confident that it is Godly advice.... but official church doctrine is only defined from 7 sources: The Bible, The Book of Mormon, The Doctine and Covenants, The Pearl of Great Price, The Articles of faith, Official Church Declarations, and Official Church Proclamations. newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/approa… I invite you to learn about the restored gospel and only invite God into the conversation... not your preacher or Pastor, but God Himself through prayer as you learn. You're in for a treat, if you do!

@RwBneck69 @jaredadairbell That pivot might work on non-native English speakers and theological researchers, but not me, respectfully.

@robalso @jaredadairbell Members understand what they’re saying but you don’t. If there was a total apostasy, then there would be no Bible, no words of Christ, no people believing in Christ & His mission. Our leaders know this, but also know that without apostles, prophets& authority, there is no church!

Those aren’t my words. It’s Mormon leaders saying a “total” or “complete,” or “universal” apostasy. If you’re not a LDS leader or apostle, your opinion has no bearing according to Mormonism on this doctrine or any other in this religion. So if you don’t agree w/ Bruce McConkie, James Talmage, and BH Roberts for example, you disagree with Mormon doctrine which is expressed through its “apostles” and leadership. “Doctrine is declared and interpreted by the President of the Church and sustained by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve acting in unanimity.” churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/g…

@robalso @jaredadairbell No, we don’t d so speak of a total apostasy! We speak of a great apostasy! There’s a difference! Stop putting words in our mouths! If any LDS member says TOTAL apostasy, they’re making a grave mistake in speaking!

@sola_chad 100%

Anybody still read a physical Bible?