PatnChilles

My Patroclus design inspirations are both gorgeous; it's normal if my art alternates between short and long hair they're the same guy 🙏💕

@Ninastasia_ HELL YEAH AGAMEMNON!!!

@room7632 AGAMEMNOOOON

Night raid with best duo #Diomedes & #Odysseus (and #Agamemnon)!!

@cherimizi All ready to spend a night out...!!

@room7632 oh the divas

@aenalepsis WAH thank you so much!! I really like him with short wavy greying hair for some reason

@room7632 omg 😭😭 i love ur odysseus design so much his greying hairs are everything 🙏

@aenalepsis I haven't seen Paris either and I've only seen the very beginning of Epic, but this doesn't sound like my jam unfortunately

@room7632 achilles so it would be okay to hate on her before that song etc etc. also i cant exactly pinpoint what will be done to helen but i KNOW its not good. so yeah not excited. im sure especially about achilles being written horribly and im NOT hungry

i lowkey dont give a shit ab epic getting a movie but it will be on sight when #that man butchers achilles' character on the #other musical. i will actually hunt him down

#patrochilles collab with pigeon!! 🧡💙 #hadesgame

@aenalepsis so basically ppl will be fed all the lowest hanging fruits... 😭💔 interested to hear your other predictions

@room7632 i feel like he is going to reheat the yaoi nachos in a mediocre way and there's gonna be a whole song about ptrch (most likely disregarding the whole briseis situation) and someone (prob odysseus or agamemnon) will make a gay joke to achilles. i have a lot of predictions.

Just greedy as hell

Homer: "Patroclus is kind so he fights in Achilles's stead to give a reprieve to his wounded comrades. Slays a demigod. Says he could have beaten 20 men like Hector if Apollo didn't intervene" Most modern retellings: "did he say Achilles's innocent little twink?" Supergiant: "no"

correct book 15 (Hector is saved by Apollo)

Correct book 6

gonna start a patrochilles & iliad-inspired tomolife playthrough thread here's incorrect book 16

@sharkluvr42069 when u eat ur homie's cooking & almost ascend to another plane of existence

@room7632 I THOUGHT IT WASNT GNA B THAT DRAMATIC THEN THE FUXKING WAVES SPLIT LMFAOOOOOOO

Remember in the Iliad when Achilles refused to eat because he was grieving and food not cooked by Patroclus is tasteless? I'm glad tomolife allows him to be just as dramatic

@Ninastasia_ that's super valid tbh 😭 as a fan, I feel you

@room7632 Tbh I’m just angry they made Circe his lover and have an appearance in the game but not his literal wife and son 😔💔

I could write an entire thesis praising the writing in Hades I & II as regards to the characters of Achilles, Patroclus, and Odysseus because Supergiant should get MORE recognition not just for the gameplay and music but for the way they just GET the Iliad and the Odyssey

@Ninastasia_ but I agree that a happy ending for Odysseus in Hades II could have been perfectly adequate too. I'm just a bit weary of how popular memory made the Odyssey into a story about how much he loves his little nuclear family and that feels inaccurate to me on MULTIPLE fronts

@Ninastasia_ To me, it feels accurate to a pessimistic reading of the Odyssey. His story didn't feel like a case of "I miss my wife & son" but rather "I'm sick of being a goddesses's plaything & long to go back to wearing the pants back home" but honestly idk I'd need to re-read the Odyssey

@StarspiritD hungry boi

@room7632 He ate that up!

@Pitchblackdrag0 he's very good at not overreacting

@room7632 Glad he didn't overreact

@4BitsComic OH YEAH totally agreed!!! 100%

@room7632 I say change in the sense that like traditionally the olympians are depicted as like perfected greek figures visually Hades having them cover a wider spectrum of humanity feels perfectly bigger in scope for the gods and helps make everyone even more distinct in the game

@4BitsComic I wouldn't even call it a "change." I don't think the gods are meant to depict "races" (in the cultural sense of the word) so much as a diversity of skin tones, sexualities, personalities, etc. Which is believable even of Ancient Greece. It makes them pluralistic & relatable

@room7632 if we are talking about mythology changes that I love from Hades Having the olympian gods be completely different races is such an inspired choice. Like these are the beings that humanity is basically shaped after and they are a giant messed up family from different lineages too

@aenalepsis Genuinely Hades Patchilles is SUCH a love letter to the Iliad. Made the two of them a union of true equals DESPITE their inequality, just as Homer intended. They stand as individual characters but their narratives are entertwined. They fight together when paired. SUPERGIANT ILU

@aenalepsis I completely agree. I think it's also a lack of understanding of what makes Patroclus so compelling. Supergiant somehow gave Pat his own individuality and authority (he heals you or empowers you) AND HE FIGHTS AS A DUO WITH ACHILLES, which are ALL thematically relevant!!