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ryann
@ryannlynnmurphy
engineer / writer / ratioer | probably absolutely finishing u with kindness
nyc Katılım Aralık 2016
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Ah there’s the man slipping out now a woman said no. Funny that.
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It's truly fucking sickening how bloodthirsty you bitches are to send someone over the edge to kill themselves.
You know exactly what you're doing too.
Christ you're a therapist too.
Youre a pathetic, sorry excuse of a human being.
Your father should have worn a condom.
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@JennaLizzy And you’re still never going to be a woman. So you can’t prove it. Therefore you’ll be exhausted forever. You’ll never look like a woman and real women don’t perform the role. So essentially you have no chance. Forget the game. Leave women alone.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy but when did I ever argue that. see you’re not arguing in good faith. you believe i hold certain viewpoints. and i dont. i was just pointing out to you that gender is socially constructed. and everytime you said. but sex isn’t. and that’s not the arguement that i was making
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy If you’re happy that great. But you’re a man pretending to be a woman. And you don’t belong in women’s spaces no matter how much you like it.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy LMFAO being as prejudice as long as I have you’re a fucking nut job psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/…
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Having done this as long as I have and navigated all the arguments - nothing.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Been there. Done that. Nothing good happened.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy exactly nothing. if nothing changes your mind then you’re also “bringing nothing” to the table. it’s called good faith. you dont have faith in people.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy I’m done because you’ve done nothing which brings any relevent to change my mind. Nothing new, nothing different. Except a reasonable conversation. So my position remains the same.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy my therapist and psychiatrist both provide great care to me. I live a genuinely amazing life. Transitioning has made me nothing but happy I don’t understand why people can’t accept that.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy so you acknowledge that my material experience is different but you don’t understand that gender is a social construct. Please make it make sense.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy You exist as a man. Experiencing things as if you’re different will happen. But it won’t be with the filter of being female your entire life. And sometimes you’ll be treated differently because people know what you are. Not womanhood.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy “i’m done because you’re right. i can’t accept change.”
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy You can’t experience womanhood. You can only experience what you think womanhood is or want it to be. Neither are reality.
Anyway. Done.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy so in psychology there’s this thing where when a problem presents itself and you continue to dismiss it it will only continue to present itself. this is called depression. it’s when you experience and emotion — like fear of change. and then you dismiss it.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Who says you’re not entirely delusional and manipulative? And I’m not your therapist. So I don’t have to work with you in any way. I wouldn’t take you as a client. So I don’t owe you anything. You gained discourse by being reasonable but it’s ended because I’m repeating and bored
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy my logic has also remained sound i am a transgender woman. you saying that i am a man is proof of that. i’m not refuting that people disagree with that fact that i am a woman. despite that i continue to experience womanhood and being treated like a woman. this only happens online
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy We didn’t get anywhere. My logic remained sound. TIMs are men.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy you’re logic is circular i’m pointing out the flaws in your circular logic. you have been going in a circle that i have been taking you through.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy We’re going round in circles. It’s been a reasonable chat but I’m just saying the same things I started out saying. Men in men’s spaces. Frocks or not. Women in women’s spaces.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy that’s interesting. okay then i think we disagree on how to solve problems. you think you’re right about everything. and i am presenting a problem i experience and you’re dismissing it. aren’t you a therapist? don’t you know what happens when you dismiss a problem?
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Yes. Male on male violence. Nothing to do with women.
Bit bored of repeating myself now.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy so if a trans woman gets raped by a man that’s a male problem?
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Nope. We have a solution for women. Now men can figure out amongst themselves. Women don’t need to be any part of it.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy so if a trans woman goes into the male bathroom and gets raped that’s a male problem that needs to be solved by men?
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy The problem is still male. We have the solution. Men can go with men and deal with their male problems. Women aren’t the solution to men’s problems.
Women can keep their own spaces away from all men.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy well if we disagree on what a woman is then we need to agree on how we can create a system of space that is good for everyone.
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy So if men are the problem the solution is to keep men out of women’s spaces. Full stop. Which we’re doing.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy i’m confused. people being murdered at a higher rate in correlation with their gender doesn’t matter?
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy but do you see how men are the problem and i’m literally just trying to agree with you
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy It can but the outcome remains the same, men are the problem.
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@ThaliaWrit @JennaLizzy i shouldn’t have phrased it as either/or, you’re right. as a victim it seems like sexual abusers get gratification from the power dynamic. so can you understand how analyzing class power dynamics when it comes to social constructions can be beneficial for all of those involved?
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@ryannlynnmurphy @JennaLizzy Sometimes either or both. There are many variations. But they’re all bad.
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