@logicEnjoyer77@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews It’s not my fault you can’t understand what certain words mean. The fact you still can’t grasp the difference between those two words is crazy. What a loser
@logicEnjoyer77@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews Damn so you can only regurgitate 5th grade level insults because you can’t defend any of your silly arguments and because you know I’m right. Go figure.
@logicEnjoyer77@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews Many of the most successful and high status men I’ve ever met were not necessarily attractive and plenty were straight up ugly. Stop coping bud. And please learn the difference between basic words
@logicEnjoyer77@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews You’re such a dumbass it’s not even funny. Yes, even that guy could be high status assuming he had enough money, power, influence, etc. Ofc few would say he’s attractive, but that’s a different thing than having actual status. You can’t determine one’s status by their looks
@sanshow17@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews imagine struggling this hard to understand something so simple.
you quite literally need me to spell it out for you.
Does this look like a high status man to you? Does this man command respect from mouth breathing groids such as yourself?
@logicEnjoyer77@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews Calling someone 50 iq when you don’t even know what basic words mean is crazy. Looks and status literally are not the same thing as a matter of definition. The fact I have to even explain that to you is just sad. Cope more bozo
@sanshow17@RationalMale Let me guess, another undeisrable male who is too lazy to do the work, instead chooses to blame the system, rather than beat it.
Critics of the Manosphere are confident enough to do podcasts about their opinions, but not confident enough to do a podcast with me when I challenge them on their ignorance. If you were confident in your convictions, you'd jump at the chance.
@RationalMale You are easy to refute, and people do it all the time. Hardly any public figure would want to debate you for the same reason you don’t see many astrophysicists debating flat-earthers: why would they want to draw attention to someone who’s pushing a bullshit narrative?
@fulltimejans@HTidepod@ClavicularNews They’re very closely related, as one who has more money has higher status in society by definition. Studies will always be extremely unreliable as attractiveness is very subjective. I can point to tons of studies that support my position.
Also Piers isn’t even ugly.
@sanshow17@HTidepod@ClavicularNews Status and money are different things btw. The "shit" im saying is based on studies, not anecdotes.
As example, why do you think Piers Morgans wife openly cucks him publicly all the time? She's 50 and he's 60 so they in the same age span, but he's a 2 and she's an 7. That's why
@fulltimejans@HTidepod@ClavicularNews Lmfao do you really think women aren’t turned on by a guy who has power and status? Looks and personality are huge ofc, but to suggest that status doesn’t make men as sexually attractive to a similar degree is completely asinine. Do you really believe the shit you’re saying?
@sanshow17@HTidepod@ClavicularNews For raw sexual attraction that's so far away from the truth. Settling down for survival and stability? Of course money is the strongest factor. Real sexual attraction where women actually crave to sleep with you? Looks and personality weighs 1000x more than money on that
@fulltimejans@HTidepod@ClavicularNews That’s not an apt comparison at all, because a 72 yo man is extremely undesirable, and not much compensates for that. But a guy who’s in a desirable age range who isn’t attractive but has money or status, will fare better with women than a guy of the same age who’s attractive
@sanshow17@HTidepod@ClavicularNews They probably got personality to compensate for it. But money is almost a non existent factor for true sexual attraction.
Do you think the gold digger that dates a 72-year old man is sexually attracted to him?
@DworlddS@moglikeme@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews That doesn’t make sense because there can’t not be a hierarchy. That’s like asking “well if gravity didn’t exist . . .”
Even there weren’t hierarchy, then looks wouldn’t matter at all because there’d be nothing to compare the looks to. Looks are judged primarily on a hierarchy.
@sanshow17@moglikeme@indubitablydel1@ClavicularNews What’s heirarchy w/o society? In a vacuum, inherent looks & charisma is closer to an individual than the status that they’ve built that’s supported by others assigning value to it in turn. Mulling over all that makes up status rather than what’s immediate is testament to it
You keep saying “I’ve seen it so many times” like your personal experience overrides general patterns. It doesn’t. Everyone has seen exceptions, that doesn’t make them the rule.
Yes, an unattractive guy can compensate with status, money or personality, but even you admitted that if everything is equal, the better-looking guy wins. That alone tells you which factor carries more weight.
And here’s the part you keep avoiding. The guy who needs to compensate is already at a disadvantage. The attractive guy doesn’t need to compensate nearly as much and still gets better results on average.
That’s why across every environment, social media, dating apps, real life, the same pattern repeats. More attention, more options, better outcomes.
You’re not wrong that other factors matter. You’re wrong about how much they matter compared to looks.