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SteveInScottsdale

@scotsdalesteve

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@scotsdalesteve @CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO No, I said you benefited from a system that did well for you and are bitching about it after leaving. The high property taxes you complain about paid for the living wage you used to better yourself. Why weren’t you a public employee in Az or Indiana?
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Rob Schwarz Jr.
Rob Schwarz Jr.@ChiRuxinBGO·
Fans looking to blame #DaBears about the traffic study not being done at this point aren’t fully understanding… A traffic study is going to cost a minimum of $100,000 and could be upwards of $500,000+. Furthermore, most jurisdictions won’t accept data that’s 1 to 2 years old. It’s a good thing they didn’t do the study early in the process since it has taken IL over 3 years to finally make a push to even talk about property tax certainty. Which then points to the why would they pay for an extensive traffic study when there has been so much uncertainty surrounding the Bears stadium site in Arlington Heights? The Bears aren’t blameless in this situation but the bigger fault still falls on the politicians (both sides) who refused to take this seriously for too long in an attempt to blackmail the Bears into covering a Soldier Field renovation debt that isn’t even their burden to bear.
Ben Szalinski@BenSzalinski

“Cunningham said the state has been experiencing ‘headwinds’ in negotiations, and those obstacles have only been ‘strengthened’ because of the outreach (to the city) by the Bears.” And the Bears haven’t done the traffic study for the infrastructure money… 10 days to go…

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SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
Well, you inferred that giving public money to private businesses is something nobody should want. But it happens on a massive scale that you ignored which proved your point to be cherry picked. My original point was- it’s better business for the bears to move to Indiana and Illinois politicians are orchestrating political theater while Indiana orchestrated political action to get things rolling
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@scotsdalesteve @CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO So Illinois is willing to do business with private businesses? Which would mean this is a bears issue? Which was the point of the original post. I’m glad we got here. You just confirmed our point.
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@scotsdalesteve @CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO The Bears aren’t getting out. All of the income taxes will still go to Illinois. Property taxes are set by local governments, not the state. Despite being wildly successful, here’s one thing that has no correlation and clearly doesn’t hurt businesses as they still do it here
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SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
@CalebWilliamsPR @DaWheels_1 @ChiRuxinBGO I think that Illinois politics suck ass. If you don’t, you’re delusional or too young and dumb to realize it yet. I hope they move to Indiana too escape that nonsense and you’ll see why in a few years. Gobbless
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SteveInScottsdale
SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
Yeah Illinois only sucked after I left 😂. What you’re getting wrong here is that I think the bears should move to Indiana too. The state is a mess and 1- the bears should get out 2- funding should go elsewhere Why? Bc despite producing the 5th largest GDP by state, and having the 2nd highest property taxes, Illinois politicians continue to fumble the bag (worst political scene in the country outside of Cali)
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31@Moxter3·
@CalebWilliamsPR @scotsdalesteve @ChiRuxinBGO Basically I took advantage of being paid a living wage that afforded me the ability to move to Arizona but now that I’m gone Illinois sucks. Just nonsense.
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SteveInScottsdale
SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
@CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO Lol oh you’re new to this. Now ask yourself why a state with that much money produced is in such a fiscal bind year after year. All while the property taxes are the 2nd highest in the country. Youre so close
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SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
@CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO Lived in IL for 30 years. Owned a house, payed taxes, worked in the public sector. Leaving the state and seeing how others operate has been eye opening
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SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
@Moxter3 @CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO When the business you’re doing relies on political cooperation, you still think it’s a fine state to do business? You think working with Illinois politicians is “fine”?
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@scotsdalesteve @CalebWilliamsPR @ChiRuxinBGO The Bears are still very much a mom and pop shop. Soccer stadium is already being built. Illinois is fine to do business in. Bears should take their “great deal”. Why haven’t they? The state would be fine. They are still head quartered here so the tax loss would be small.
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SteveInScottsdale
SteveInScottsdale@scotsdalesteve·
Lol so you’re concerned about business ethics? Or the bears not jumping on a great deal? IL is an absolute pit to do business in and the bears know this and are lucky that the states incompetence is on full display. For years fans have complained about being a Mom n pop shop- not anymore.
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Caleb Williams Rescue Team
Caleb Williams Rescue Team@CalebWilliamsPR·
@scotsdalesteve @ChiRuxinBGO Counterpoint: Indiana is being really fucking stupid and irresponsible in offering billions in taxpayer money without any real study. If this YOUR money and it were a data center or a solar farm would you knee-jerk support?
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Caleb Williams Rescue Team
Caleb Williams Rescue Team@CalebWilliamsPR·
@ChiRuxinBGO Counterpoint: I think if you are asking for millions in taxpayer money you owe it to the public to do your due diligence. Simply no excuse for not doing that at this point, and I don’t know what in this process Kevin Warren has done to earn the benefit of the doubt
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