Bobby the Terrible

A 🧵 on the Haitian revolution and how France purposefully ruined the country out of spite:

@MechaPatriot @C0mmunistCowb0y I didn't say Elon Musk at first I said a "CEO or a banker" but you dodged so I made the question even simpler for you. obviously systems are larger than individuals that's not an excuse to ignore things like class intrests

Ya but why are you calling him some random plumber like a general working class person but with Elon Musk you are using his actual name? You see how those things are different? Capitalism as a mode of production was around way before either of these people so how could either be responsible for it? See we don’t even agree about where we are right now Capitalism ended in the strict economic sense in 1929. Im opeating under imperialism and super imperialism paradigm

Another nothing burger from Johnny and Co. The news is: -Helali works at a law firm -Helali shows his international trips to people -Other people work with Helali

@C0mmunistCowb0y coward with no principles who spends his day trying to justify why advocating for genocide is good but My Little Pony is bad has some "important business" lmfao

@secondbyfarce Thank you concerned citizen, I have important business to attend to, but I appreciate the seriousness in which you have engaged in this conversation. I will investigate the materials if needed and see to it your concerns are properly handled.

ACP defender makes it clear: "The rule-breaking [of the constitution] is not itself breaking the constitution". ACP leadership is not expected to follow by the rules of their organization. in what world is this considered demcent?

@C0mmunistCowb0y I see no evidence that there was even the possibility for democratic processes to effect this. Haz made a unilateral decision on this like he does with everything

@secondbyfarce That is your opinion, I will also have to use the processes of demcent to determine if that is a valid opinion to have.

@C0mmunistCowb0y you don't care about leadership breaking the constitution you made that very clear

@secondbyfarce If the leadership has broken demcent that is to be determined internally, not by a crackhead on twitter

@C0mmunistCowb0y you are saying leadership can break the constitution and only in cases where it is "necessary" action will be taken. that's not demcent it's anarchist larp

@secondbyfarce It will occur when it needs to be evaluated, I assure you if it is necessary to be addressed it will be addressed

"ACP is a sexist transphobic pyramid scheme" Their evidence:

@C0mmunistCowb0y it will never be addressed, Haz already made his ruling on the matter

@secondbyfarce Do you have a crystal ball or do you want me to look into the future with my foresight and see when this will be addressed?

@C0mmunistCowb0y so you don't hold leadership to the rules of the constitution. it's not demcent.

@secondbyfarce There is a difference between: >Rule-breaking which is often, and will occur >Breaking of democratic principles, which makes the organization unable to address issues of the constitution

@C0mmunistCowb0y when? how? they will vote on Rev's actions? Haz already forgave him for self crit, where was the democracy in this?

@secondbyfarce Through the central committee

@C0mmunistCowb0y when will this democratic decision took place? it's been a long time since this rule was broken

@secondbyfarce What weaseling is being done? I have told you will evaluate this a decide upon it as necessary, and then hold the line the organization democratically decides.

@C0mmunistCowb0y I asked you very clearly by what mechanism would this democratic decision happen?

@secondbyfarce The mechanism of democratic decision making will decide if and how that was out of line. The rule-breaking is not itself breaking the constitution, that would be if the democratic processes to address this were hindered.

@C0mmunistCowb0y just for some evidence here you are. I can even tag the individual if you need to hear it from them too. you can't weasel your way out of this one, leadership clearly broke their constitution. it's worth as much as toilet paper. so will you leave?

@secondbyfarce I will leave that to the democratic processes and I will utter my voice when I see fit or am able to, it is not my place to have a <250 character accusation guide my decisions

@C0mmunistCowb0y the ACP has very clear rule against discrimination, Rev called an ACP member a N word and the member left. Rev is still in leadership. will you leave?

@secondbyfarce Yes, my intent was not to straw man you with limited characters, I'm aware it was an insult. The red line in this case would be: If ACP broke its constitution undemocratically that would be the red line. I tow the democratic line otherwise.

@C0mmunistCowb0y I said "I am just trying to understand if there is any rational part of your brain which still has any principles whatsoever". it was a question of whether you have an principles or not...

@secondbyfarce Ok so there are rational people in ACP, good. Thank goodness we can agree on something. Now back to the original question which was something like: "where are your red lines with ACP? I want to know if you're a rational person" Shall we go there now?

@C0mmunistCowb0y I don't know what a non-rational person would be. like someone in a coma or something? someone with severe mental handicaps? rationality is a basic faculty of cognition, I don't know what are you asking me

@secondbyfarce Yes we went over the fact you think there are 'good' people in ACP, that doesn't prove either way whether you believe there are rational people in the organization

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@secondbyfarce So there are rational people in ACP?

@C0mmunistCowb0y you can have reasons for joining a group, for a normal person that doesn't mean abandoning every principle you have in favor of fantasizing about killing gay people or whatever you are trying to defend

@secondbyfarce Were I to go down the initial path of going through hypotheticals until we could 'prove' my convictions, then you deemed I had no principled red lines, that is the alternative, whatever you may call it, oh yes: going because of 'cults and fanclubs'

@C0mmunistCowb0y as opposed to what, joining randomly?

@secondbyfarce Rationally arriving at an organization of collective principle means exactly what it means: weighing facts and evidence, seeing what organization most aligns with that vision, and then subordinating your individuality to a collective will. Do you think those people exist in ACP?

@C0mmunistCowb0y do you mean they had reasons to join? I don't know what you mean by "rationally arrived at this organization as a collective principle"

@secondbyfarce Yes, we know that for you the are a lot of 'good' people (victims of this demiurge of leadership), what I asked for was: Are there rational people in ACP ie. are there people who have rationally arrived at this organization as a collective principle?