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@ARAH_Ashari Forget Imam Ahmed, Ibn Rajab says even Abu Hanifa was critical and rejected the mutakalimeen and their talks about accidents and bodies. Abu Hasan himself repented towards the end of his life and accepted the way of the salaf.
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ARAH@ARAH_Ashari·
Who is Abu butayn? Who is he compared to Shaykh Al-Islam Al-Haytami? Rather may Allah disgrace ibn taymiyah and his followers who worshipped a limited bodily figure!
Ibrāhīm Ibn Maḥmūd@ibmsulaymani

Al-Qāḍī Abā Buṭayn’s (1194-1280H) response to Ibn Ḥajar al-Haytamī’s slander against Ibn Taymīyyah and Ibn al-Qayyim: • Al-Qāḍī Abā Buṭayn said: ❝I say: Rather, may Allāh disgrace Ibn Ḥajar [al-Haytamī] for his fabrication against Shaykh al-Islām Ibn Taymiyyah and his student Shams al-Dīn Ibn al-Qayyim, in what he attributed to them and accused them of from lies and slander. So whoever sincerely advises himself and wants to clarify Ibn Ḥajar’s lie should look into their books and reflect on their words; he will find them explicit in agreement with the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamāʿah, and that what they established and argued for is exactly the madhhab of the Salaf, agreeing with the Book and the Sunnah. It is the madhhab of Imām Aḥmad, the leading Imāms of his companions, and all the Imāms of Islām. Ibn Ḥajar [al-Haytamī] only took this from the Jahmiyyah, for they used to call whoever said, “The Qurʾān is uncreated,” or “Allāh will be seen in the Hereafter,” or “He is above the Throne,” a corporealist and anthropomorphist. They would say: affirming that entails corporealism and anthropomorphism. They began branding Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamāʿah with these ugly names to repel the common people from the truth. The words of the Imāms and scholars of the Ummah in refuting them are well known. The madhhab of Shaykh al-Islām Ibn Taymiyyah is the madhhab of the Imāms and the Salaf of the Ummah, agreeing with the Book and the Sunnah. It is to affirm what has come in the Book and the Sunnah of the attributes of the Creator, exalted is He; to take them upon their reality, not metaphorically; without negation or figurative reinterpretation, and without asking how or likening. They do not care that the people of innovation call them ugly names, nor do they abandon the truth because of that. They describe Allāh with what He described Himself, and they do not abandon that due to the denunciation of whoever denounces. The matter is as Nuʿaym Ibn Ḥammād said: “Whoever likens Allāh to His creation has disbelieved, and whoever denies what Allāh described Himself with has disbelieved. What Allāh described Himself with, or what His Messenger described Him with, is not likening.”❞ 📚 (Majmūʿ Fatāwā wa-Rasāʾil al-Shaykh al-ʿAllāmah ʿAbd Allāh Ibn ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Abā Buṭayn p. 637-638)

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waleed@shady_829·
@ibnrajab01 Rather Ibn Hajar says the correct definition is “One who met the Prophet ﷺ while believing in him and died upon that, even if apostasy occurred in between.” If we hold to Al Nawawi’s definition then it will exclude sahabas who were blind such as Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum
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Himmel@ibnrajab01·
Al Nawawi mentioned: A Companion (Sahabi) is any Muslim who met the Prophet ﷺ and saw him, even if only briefly.This is the correct definition, and it is the view held by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Abu Abdillah al Bukhari in his Sahih, and the scholars of hadith in general.
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waleed@shady_829·
@GodLogic_GL @korrathetaymi For every one muslim you bring showing bad behaviour we can bring you 20 Christian’s saying and doing worse so get your own house in order before you start looking elsewhere
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GodLogic_GL@GodLogic_GL·
Ayo is this y’all’s queen forreal? @korrathetaymi Listen to how Muslims talk to each other behind the scenes 👀 W Korra
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waleed@shady_829·
@enesovat22 @AccumulatedTh You look like your suffering from the same thing god logic is I can see you’ve got ex Muslim in ur bio I have no clue why you guys make it ur whole personality
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Enes 🇹🇷@enesovat22·
@AccumulatedTh Sneako has no idea about Muslims who have discord servers on how to destroy Christianity.
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Accumulated Thoughts@AccumulatedTh·
GodLogic reaches out to SNEAKO for a Collab
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waleed@shady_829·
@ARAH_Ashari Here is Razi saying that believing Allah is fi samah is incorrect. You don’t even know the Ashari aqeedah😭😭😭
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ʾAbū ʿAṭiyyaħ al-Ḥanbalī (ARAH)
An extremely important notice: Ḥarfīs (those who confirm letters [ḥurūf] for Allāh’s speech) are NOT representatives of traditional Sunnī orthodoxy. In fact, multiple Sunnī scholars transmit a consensus (ʾijmāʿ) on negating letters and sounds for Aḷḷāh’s speech, and this is—
ʾAbū ʿAṭiyyaħ al-Ḥanbalī (ARAH)@abuatiyyah_

@AQJinstitute كلام الله تعالى منزه عن الحروف والأصوات بل هو معنى قائم بذاته سبحانه وتعالى وليس من جنس اللغات كالعربية والعبرانية (ليس كمثله شيء) هذه عقيدة أهل السنة الأشاعرة والماتريدية ولا عبرة بالحرفية من الحنابلة بل هم جماعة منهم فقط ذكره ابن القشيري وقد قال ابن الحفيد التفتازاني-

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waleed@shady_829·
@ARAH_Ashari @abolore12345 You only know hands within creation. So you are defining ‘hand’ based on created examples, then imposing those limitations onto Allah. You have made qiyas from the creation to the Creator. Words can share a basic meaning while differing completely in reality.
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ARAH@ARAH_Ashari·
@shady_829 @abolore12345 You are running to what rijal said. Im telling you a hand is a body part.
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waleed@shady_829·
@abuatiyyah_ I literally included a scan of Abdullah saying my father said Allah spoke to Musa with sawt. This is directly from his book Kitab Al Sunnah. This is the first time I’ve heard someone say it is not authentic. You said I haven’t shown you anything authentic
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ʾAbū ʿAṭiyyaħ al-Ḥanbalī (ARAH)
This book is falsely attributed to ʾAḥmad. In reality, its author is Muqātil ibn Sulaymān, as clarified by al-Malaṭī and others. Moreover, all chains of transmission for this book go back to a dubious person by the name of al-Khaḍir ibn al-Muthanná, who was majhūl (unknown).
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For the Ashari Hanabilah🤣🤡 Imam Ahmad: You have greatly wronged Allah by claiming that He does not speak, for u have likened Him to the idols that are worshipped besides Allah, bc idols dont speak, nor do they utter, nor do they move, & they do not leave one place for another.

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waleed@shady_829·
@ARAH_Ashari @abolore12345 Then why did Ibn Rahuyah, Ahmed, Shafi, Malik, Sufyan, Thawri just to name a few affirm it. They said to carry these silicate upon their literal meaning.
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ARAH@ARAH_Ashari·
@shady_829 @abolore12345 I wonder if any idol worshipper (wahhabi zanadiqah) would be able to go to a new muslim and tell him: "Yes We don't negate that what we worship has pu@ic hair and we say He has limits and ends."
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waleed@shady_829·
@ARAH_Ashari @abolore12345 Believing Allah has a hand and shin and every other sifat that Allah describes himself with to you guys is humanoid. Ashari belief: If I believe in what Allah described himself with I’m a mushabbih and a kafir.
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ARAH@ARAH_Ashari·
@shady_829 @abolore12345 Laymen's fitrah is also that Allah is a humanoid form sitting on a throne, some say with a white beard, and some believe from the fitrah that Allah is everywhere 🤷‍♂️
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waleed@shady_829·
@abuatiyyah_ Direct quotes of Razi and Ghazzali saying Allah did not speak to Musa with letters and voice and Ahmed saying the exact opposite. I wonder whose words you will take. After you threw Ibn Hajar under the bus and said he blundered you might do that with Imam Ahmed too we’ll see
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waleed@shady_829·
@abuatiyyah_ Here Ibn Hajar saying the Hanibala and Ahmed himself saying that Allah spoke to Musa with a voice. Also, did ibn taymiyyah say he heard from Khallal or quote him? Hes quoting his writing that doesn’t mean it’s not authentic.
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ʾAbū ʿAṭiyyaħ al-Ḥanbalī (ARAH)
@shady_829 Concerning the second one, then al-Bukhārī affirmed ṣawt for Allāh based on some transmissions (ʾāthār), but he negated the literal meaning of ṣawt for Allāh, and he didn’t affirm ḥurūf (letters) for Allāh’s speech. (2/2)
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waleed@shady_829·
@abolore12345 @ARAH_Ashari Laymen do not believe that. The god of asharis doesn’t even exist they say he’s neither in or out of this world or creation. Anyways you take your aqeedah from scholars who all repented just before their death such as Razi, Juwayni and Ghazzali and more. Go read bidaya wal nihaya
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Musa as-Sudani@abolore12345·
@shady_829 @ARAH_Ashari Wow! Never knew this! The same laymen believed in tasalsul al hawadith, Allah has indivisible parts etc? Laymen believed Allah is everywhere🤣 Take ur deen from laymen while I take mine from the scholars
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waleed@shady_829·
@abolore12345 @ARAH_Ashari Wdym that’s my interpretation? I just summarised it I don’t have the space to translate everything they said. They laymen’s fitrah is that Allah is upon his throne and that the Quran is uncreated. Reply to the quotes I gave you ur imams say we cannot go public with our aqeedah
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Musa as-Sudani@abolore12345·
@shady_829 @ARAH_Ashari That's ur own interpretation كلموا الناس على قدر عقولهم أتحبون أن يُكذَّب الله ورسوله And what is the layemn's fitrah? Believing God is everywhere🤣
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waleed@shady_829·
@abolore12345 @ARAH_Ashari By the way this is just the tip of the iceberg. Here are quotes from both Al Razi and Ghazzali saying the prophet hid the true aqeedah from the people because he know they would reject it. They both say we must conceal the truth from the people because their fitrah go against it.
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