schweppes

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schweppes

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@shvoopsen

Katılım Ağustos 2011
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@y36ok @schizo4jesus @depthsofwiki Ти говориш про борщ без належної поваги, навіть обізвав його супом... Очевидно що в твоїй культурі борщ нічого не значить, а в моїй культурі борщ - це кров і душа. Тобі не дано зрозуміти, бо ти чужак
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y36ok@y36ok·
@shvoopsen @schizo4jesus @depthsofwiki Ебанат, просто приписали в ускоренном порядке тупую хуйню под охрану. Борщ существует больше, чем Украина блять. Это такое же тупое включение, как и ты сам. Как нахуй можно защищать приготовление простого супа? Охранять? От чего, ебанат?
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depths of wikipedia!
depths of wikipedia!@depthsofwiki·
i'm starting a collection of things like this
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schizo4jesus@schizo4jesus·
@depthsofwiki Borsch will never be "Ukrainian". Hohols have never invented anything ever.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@otocobulus76 @HMKHKKLDYK6 @Rimmy_Downunder I think you may be projecting some of your local Balkan understanding of ethnicities on Eastern Slavs. Ukrainians and Russians are to each other like Serbians and Bulgarians. You're prob suggesting more "Serbians and Montenegrins", which is an irrelevant analogy for 🇺🇦 and 🇷🇺
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@grain99806254 @thatgrimdude @souljagoyteller Anyone with knowledge of domestic 🇺🇦 and 🇷🇺 politics knows that gov't and society in 🇷🇺 is 100x more fascist than in 🇺🇦. They have way more nazis in the army too. Also, Azov's been incorporated into regular AFU since like 2015, it's a brigade like any other, it's non-political
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@grain99806254 @thatgrimdude @souljagoyteller There are no Nazi units in AFU. This entire narrative was invented by russia to justify their wars. The myth comes from the fact that 1st Ukrainians who volunteered after 2014 invasion were far-right adjacent football hooligans. Exactly the type to volunteer first during invasion
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@Serbianboix @BackaJakub Most of them identify as Ukrainians, there were around 10k Carpatho-Rusyns in Ukraine according to the 2001 census (the most recent one).
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Yossi🌐@BackaJakub·
In 1921 Hungarians made up 17 % of Zakarpatian population. In 2001 Hungarians made up 15 % of Zakarpatian population. "9 decades of relentless linguistic assimilation and persecution" 🤡🤡🤡 Hungarians being Hungarians vol. 154
Csaba Tóth 🇸🇴@tothcsabatibor

Jay is a liar. Obviously a lot of work went into Hungarians being squeezed into their present territory as pictured, but this is exactly why 9 decades of relentless linguistic assimilation and persecution has to be ended. The original HU speaking area -that noone wants back by the way - was 3 times the size of this.

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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@marc__adler @vithimerius @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung Russian, on the other hand, had unbroken written tradition due to Muscovy's (and later Russia's) independence. Plus, their writing was conservative due to their over-reliance on OES/OCS in almost all spheres of life, from church to literature to government.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@marc__adler @vithimerius @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung Bel. orthography was made from scratch. Of course, Bel. had written tradition much earlier in form of medieval Ruthenian, but it was wiped out by Polish and later Russian. Therefore, in 19th c., new written Bel. re-emerged based on vernacular. So orthography is modern (logical)
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zlyaleh
zlyaleh@zlyaleh666·
One of the first appearances of printed ~modern Belarusian. 1846 "Sielanka" play by Vincent Dunin-Marcinkievič. Released under russian imperial rule, disguised as an artpiece in Polish to bypass censorship. Modern printed Belarusian started its way in latin alphabet(lacinka).
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@marc__adler @vithimerius @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung The reason is that Bel. got its standard orthography recently, and it's based on spoken form. Rus. orthography always was conservative, due to Old Rus. basing written lang. on OES/OCS standard. This fundament stayed even after spoken Rus. entered written Rus. after 18th c.
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Marc Adler
Marc Adler@marc__adler·
@vithimerius @shvoopsen @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung I speak Russian so I'm aware of the divergences between spelling and pronunciation you mention (ikanie, fina devoicing, etc), but my question is why Belarusian went full akanie in its spelling (apparently very early on) but Russian didn't.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@vithimerius @marc__adler @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung Good find. This also makes sense geographically, as Baltic archaeological cultures were located almost exactly in the akanye zone prior to proto-Slavic expansion. Looks more and more plausible than vyatich hypithesis
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@vithimerius @marc__adler @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung Thank you, this is interesting and quite plausible. Especially considering that Shevelov himself thought that Polotsk-Ryazan dialectical zone emerged as a result of proto-Slavic absorbing Baltic substrate. Will read further on this.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@marc__adler @zlyaleh666 @DrFrancisYoung Akanie in the linguistic area that would later become Belarusian language goes back to Ancient Rus, or possibly even earlier, according to Shakhmatov and Shevelov. Some linguists associate akanie with the dialect of vyatichs, but that's just a hypothesis
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@atomlib @masagget "Malorussian" is an anachronism. All 3 languages were indeed considered "supradialects" (наречия), but only for political reasons. Linguists who studied the topic, like Miklosich and de Courtenay, considered Malorussian to be its own language even in XIX c.
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atomlib@atomlib·
@masagget That's not what the languages were called: there were Great Russian, Small Russian (Malorussian), and Belarussian. The 1897 census considered them all to be dialects of Russian.
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KUANYSH 𐰌
KUANYSH 𐰌@masagget·
Urbanization Level by Mother Tongue (1897 Russian Empire Census)
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i am very embarassed to admit this but for one fraction of a second, i did believe in mamdani.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@CornPablanoV2 @ytrav_alt @ProQuake55 @zanyfen Because Chinese "dialects" are actually vastly different languages. If you want to draw a comparison, Russian to Ukrainian is kinda like Norwegian to Danish or Portuguese to Spanish
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Vintage Maps@vintagemapstore·
Indigenous languages of the Arctic Circle
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Loquitur Ponte Sublicio
Loquitur Ponte Sublicio@loquitur_ponte·
Loving Macron is just good taste. Here is a man with, as far as anyone can tell, no particularly deep convictions except love for power. As a relatively inconsequential minister he quit, formed his own party named after himself, somehow not just beat but destroyed both major parties, became president, bootstrapped a list of assembly candidates for his fake two year old party named after himself, somehow won that too, and for a decade has held onto power at both levels despite crippling personal unpopularity. If you dont like Macron you just dont enjoy the game, this is late career Kobe scoring stuff
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@TheEternalSerb @Potentate_v1 Correct, it was a dialect continuum. Putting all east slavic dialects in 1 lang. would be wrong as they never were a single spoken lang. and had 3 written standards in XIV. For tiny dialects we don't have sources. Linguists delineate 5 dialect groups, EU5 should stick to them
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Svevlad al-Kaddabi@TheEternalSerb·
@shvoopsen @Potentate_v1 They were a lot more continual, you couldn't really delineate them as anything. So you either have to say everything from Arkhangelsk to Lvov is the same thing or split it into like a bunch of tiny dialects
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Plenipotentiary
Plenipotentiary@Potentate_v1·
After Vatican, Franks and Brits successfully made historiography a key pillar of state propaganda, the Swedes went into medieval NAFO overdrive in pseudohistorical games, outcringing Sabaton. This is absolute dogshit nonsense pulled from deepest depths of Scandinavian faggotry.
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schweppes@shvoopsen·
@TheEternalSerb @Potentate_v1 It's the opposite - they haven't converged enough. The EU5 dialect map should have more of them, not fewer. Back in XIV, 🇺🇦 lang. was still forming out of Halych-Podillia dialect and Kyiv-Polissia dialect. Ruthenian lang. was a written standard for 🇺🇦🇧🇾, but spoken langs differed
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Svevlad al-Kaddabi
Svevlad al-Kaddabi@TheEternalSerb·
@Potentate_v1 ја им рекао да у 1337 пола ових језика се није дивергирало довољно
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