Simon

Sturgeon and @theSNP must think we are idiots. You knew what was going on. When he flips on you, good luck in prison.

@Tori_TLCR Double check the actual numbers. You will be shocked what information came out in 2013. It is why Labour support bottomed out. Anyway, my bed is calling. Take it easy

@simondukamp I am not incorrect. 12% poverty when she took office. 28% when she left. Conservative numbers too.

In 1997 my boomer mom paid $525/mo or $6,300/year rent for a 3 bedroom house in Thunder Bay, Ontario. If rent only increased for inflation, that's $966.63 month or $11,599/year. (CAD 2025) But rent doesn't work like that. Market rent in 2025 in Thunder Bay for a 3 bedroom was

@Tori_TLCR Food Bank support was only available if you asked. In 2010 the Conservatives reversed this and all benefit claimants were offered help by staff. So called socialist government under Blair were far from socialists

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 1) But could after. Result is still privatization. 2) But then spent more on the effects of homelessness and poverty, Thatcher doubled child poverty. 3) You have a housing crisis, caused in part by depleting social housing stock. 4) I hate Blair too.

@Tori_TLCR In 2009 I lost my job and when I signed on I got offered no additional help. Found work. Signed off. 2011 I lost the new job (company went bust) and signed on. Was offered food bank help. Asked what changed at the job centre. Was told Labour stopped staff offering.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 The so called left wing Labour party turned more right wing than the Conservatives with the help of Union bosses now being investigated by Police for fraud. Anyway, it is late. Good night.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 The first go, then when they want to resell, it's to whoever and private forever, which means there's less affordable homes in supply to keep rent low.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 7. Blair allowed social housing association to buy some housing stock to rent out privately meaning they double dipped. Thatcher didn't cause the problem. She just opened the door for Blair to later abuse the system with his own wife making money from it.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 5. Blair signs open borders policy allowing unlimited migration flooding the social housing market. 6. Blair started housing associations to handle all social housing allowing low rents and the government covered the difference between social and private housing.

I always find it humourous when people who were neither born here or have lived here in the UK, and also admit they don't have proper knowledge, comment on aforementioned things they have no knowledge of. Bloody Canadian this time. Canada Men are Me 🫎 get nervous

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 I disagree because the right to buy was only for certain people. The poor as you call them. At the time housing stock was plentiful. 1000s empty. Upgrading started along with new building under Thatcher but Blair nuked that.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 Yes it is. Because after that they could resell and it remains a private asset. It was privatization, but sold to the masses as the first step to help the poor join homeowners. In reality, it was taking public assets everyone paid in to and selling them off.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 Also, just to jump the shark before anyone calls me right wing or Tory, my Dad was left wing Labour and a union rep. I was the same.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 The right to buy was privatization, too by the way. That's how Thatcher massaged people's consent. They acted like it was liberatory to privatize those assets that were publicly paid for. The right often does that, see "right to work" anti-union policy that result in lower wages.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 As regards the unions, many of them are currently under criminal investigation dating back decades.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 However, with the introduction of Tony Blair the building schedule was more than halved and benefits increased to keep people dependent on the state. Privatisation was under Blair.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 I equate to modern day activism where around 85% of activists have never been impacted by their cause, get paid to protest and are often middle class children in wealthy families going through their troublemaking stage. Roughly 15% are only true activists.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 Yes, Blair was a traitor of the same ilk as Bill Clinton and Canada's Jean Chretien. They adopted the same neoliberalism of the conservatives before them and ramped it up.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 Thatcher didn't privatise social housing here in the UK. She introduced the right to buy for council tenants. It was under Tony Blair that the social housing structure became privatised. Thatcher was Conservative and Blair is left wing Labour (in name only). Facts.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 I'm not from the UK and not going to pretend I know all about the inner workings of their council housing but I do not think it is or was the same as prior to Margaret Thatcher's privatization.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 The UK government stopped handling social Council housing in the late 90s under Labour. Only gotten worse since. All contracted out.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 So expropriate them and run them through a housing department through the feds. Sounds good to me.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 I agree with you, but can you explain why council/social housing which is all managed by housing associations that also privately rent at the same time is allowed to.happ3n unchecked? The whole point of social housing is to be the good guys when infact many are not.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 I support council housing and social housing. I don't care about the kumbaya sentiments of landlords. Housing shouldn't be a vehicle for wealth generation.

@Tori_TLCR @SaveTheEarth84 That is where the morally part comes in. I ran a local foundation for years that included helping with housing. It is shocking what we discovered iver time.

@simondukamp @SaveTheEarth84 Morally worse lol. No they aren't.