Michael Slug

@domhoy @TippettCooper @slbsn It's a standard catch-all to punish behaviour they don't like but which doesn't breach any specific rule. Not relevant when there is a specific rule they've been charged with breaking. If spying outside of the 72 hr window is a breach of rules then why have a time limit at all?

@SlugMichael @TippettCooper @slbsn That's a little disingenuous. Cheating in a match is dealt with by the officials or separate disciplinary proceedings. This regulation refers to conduct by one club towards the League and other clubs

🚨🤓 Southampton Spygate personal view: 1. Expect the breaches will be straightforward to establish (ie liability) and almost certainly admitted to try and get some sanction credit/discount 2. Expect aggravating factors such as other examples of Soton spying this year to be raised 3. Fundamental question of how serious a breach of rule 127 and good faith is will be key. We know good faith alone was £200k in the Leeds case. The new rule makes it worse and spying obviously seeks a sporting advantage - why else do it? So that does point to sporting sanction of some sort 4. Being thrown out of the Play Offs appears excessive especially given Southampton finished 7 points clear of 6th and 9 clear of 7th 5. A 3-0 in the first leg would have been an option again excessive retrospectively unless 2nd leg re-playable (not feasible) 6. More likely sanction is points deduction next season in the Championship as much as that won't help Middlesboro 7. Unlikely that the PL will take a points deduction recommendation from the EFL (no fixed rule) - doubt EFL will push for it, so would apply in first season back in Championship (when and if) 8. My best guess is SIX EFL points in first season in EFL and £500k-£1m fine 9. Boro compensation claim can be dealt with separately subject to any claim brought by Boro - difficult claim to establish due to causation issues

@domhoy @TippettCooper @slbsn Surprised the "good faith" charge is being used this time. In the Leeds case there was no specific spying regulation at the time so they had to charge them under that. Good faith is broken the dozens of times every match that players try to con referees in their favour.

@SlugMichael @TippettCooper @slbsn No. Spying before that timeframe would still be punishable under the previous requirement to treat opponents with respect. This further, stricter, Regulation was brought in to stop what Bielsa was doing from happening again. Southampton have been charged under both Regs

@TippettCooper @slbsn This. You can't have the nuclear punishment for something that is OK if done 24 hours earlier.

@slbsn Best take I’ve seen to date (& I’ve seen a lot!). I think EFL tangled themselves up as rules implicitly permit spying pre72 hrs of KO. Inherent seriousness of conduct is undermined as a result - so fine and pts deduction. They’ll need to amend rule & inc sanctions guidance

@slbsn I feel if there were additional charges added to the original one then the news would've leaked out at some point. And Southampton would be asking for extra time to respond.

@SlugMichael I'm sure they have

@WG_RumblePants Bloke at my club still uses a GN scoop, it would be nearing 40 years old and still pings beautifully.

We all know they were cool.

@Dr_Tad "Controlled" by paying people not to work, thus fuelling demand while restricting production and causing much of our current inflation issues.

“Cost of living” issues have been corrosive to political classes everywhere, in a way that no band-aids have fixed. Claims inflation is due to “external” factors beyond their control won’t help leaders whose only recent period of high authority was when they briefly ran on the illusion they’d controlled a respiratory pandemic.

@ThatsSoVillage x.com/i/status/20494…

What's the most village thing that happened in your match at the weekend? 🏏

Back to Wembley. Backed by history.

@L1minus10 And that should've been a red

In order to get a booking in that game, one of the Arsenal players had to shove the referee. #saintsfc

@MrBoldOne @EmiratesFACup Enjoy your quadruple, pal.

We had too much for an injury-plagued Arsenal 😉

@MarchMadnessMBB @jloose128 @redditCBB The Alaska map has been wild this year.

#MarchMadness Map 🗺 Each county is assigned to the closest team in the bracket! (via @jloose128, @redditCBB)

@ClarkeMicah They are seeing it through the prism of their social activities, which predominantly are between work/school finish time and sunset. That period has an extra hour of daylight when the clocks are moved forward. They are perfectly aware this is offset by less daylight before work.

.@slugmichael. I am not strawmanning anybody. These people keep referring to an 'extra hour of daylight'. What else is this supposed to mean, other than that they believe this?

@ClarkeMicah There are many good arguments against daylight saving time. Strawmanning your opponents as if they believe changing the clocks actually increases the number of daylight hours is not one of them.

My reply to the people who honestly think you can create extra daylight by falsifying your clocks.

@ClarkeMicah @richardparke15 How does one pass this test? By refusing to change their clocks, which you admit would put them impossibly out of sync with everyday life?

.@richardparke15. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is why I call this event a National Annual Intelligence Test. So many fail.

Just realized the best part of having an autobid is that we don’t need a relative going on tv to explain why we deserve to be in over a 30-win @MiamiRedHawks

@ClarkeMicah @HousewifePolish *except not for Reform, even if they were the best chance of beating Labour in a seat.

No, .@housewifepolish I encouraged them to vote against Labour

We want nine, we want nine. Put a DVD of that out, you bellends 😆😆😆😆 #SaintsFC