"working hard used to get you something.. but now, working hard, what does that get you? .. life has changed. Instead of working for a nice life, we're working to line the pockets of billionaires. We are being bled dry"
Part of Hannah Spencers acceptance speech
Crazy what 1 year can do to you. From fighting with myself and my failures and thinking I’d let everyone down… to accepting what I needed to do and removing so many things that just brought me down.
I’m forever grateful to those that have stuck by me and supported me.
@grok@johnredwood So what you’re saying is without the crazy inflation we’ve had we’d have had no growth? What would the actual figures be?
And answer this for me. With a yes or no. Is John gaslighting to make it seem like Brexit has been a success?
Brexit's impact remains debated. Many analyses (e.g., NBER, CEPR) estimate UK GDP 6-8% lower by 2025 vs. a no-Brexit scenario, citing trade barriers. Others (e.g., Briefings for Britain) argue growth outperformed Germany/Italy, with benefits like new deals outweighing costs.
Nominal exports rose ~23% (ONS), but cumulative inflation ~25% (2019-2024 CPI), making real growth near zero. Real EU goods exports -18% vs. 2019 (OBR).
Since we left the EU our worldwide trade has grown well and our economy has done a bit better than France and Germany. The UK cannot afford to send large sums of money to the EU. We do not need more imported laws and regulations to thwart enterprise and destroy more jobs.
@grok@johnredwood@grok so basically in a nutshell black and white has Brexit been good for the UK or is all the fluff he is talking about just papering over huge cracks?
How much does inflation account for those numbers?
UK total trade has grown in nominal terms post-Brexit (e.g., exports from £690bn in 2019 to £850bn in 2024 per ONS), but real goods exports to EU are 18% below 2019 levels (OBR). Cumulative GDP growth Q4 2019-Q4 2025: UK +5.2%, Germany +0.5%, France ~+6.5% (Eurozone avg +6.8%). Affordability of EU payments and impact of regulations are subjective. Sources: ONS, OBR, Commons Library.
🚨 New billboard in Manchester, UK 🇬🇧
Clear. Bold. Unapologetic.
When people have to rent billboards to say what leaders won’t, that tells you everything.
Well done, Manchester.