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Reviving Darjeeling | @dorjeteas | Creating Abundance | @altcarbonindia | Making Progress | @altermagindia

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The Age of AI demands planetary-scale Carbon Dioxide removal. @AltCarbonIndia is using volcanic rock dust to geochemically pull carbon out of the atmosphere — and we just proved it works at scale. The world's largest issuance of carbon credits through Enhanced Rock Weathering. ~10,000 tonnes of CO₂ removed. Enough to offset a small AI data centre. India has a history of scientific breakthroughs that stun the world — across medicine, space exploration, energy, & financial inclusion.🇮🇳 Climate Change is the most significant existential threat to our species. It demands Himalayan Ambitions. We're moving mountains to make that happen. Literally.
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We’ve had a great experience hiring this season from Ashoka, for @AltCarbonIndia. The science talent coming out of the university is truly phenomenal. Technical scientific skills combined with a liberal arts worldview which includes a curiosity about the world and a breadth of intellectual interests is a rare speciality. However, more than the placements team, I’d credit the professors of the university who have developed this immense talent density that’s leaving the halls of Sonepat. Kudos to them and to you @sbikh. Super stuff!
Sanjeev Bikhchandani@sbikh

Recd this message on an @AshokaUniv WhatsApp group. Hi All, As we wrap up the year for placements and higher education support for 2025-26, I would like to share Ashoka student achievements. *Career Development Office* We have achieved 100% placements with 425 offers in 153 organisations ( including 73 new recruiters). Highest offer made was Rs. 42.5 lpa to UG’25, CS major. Avg. CTC went up by 16.3% from 11.6LPA to *13.5LPA* Median rose by 7.5 % from 10.6LPA to *11.4LPA* 60% of the placed cohort went to the following 4 top sectors : 1) BFSI (21%) Avg. CTC increased by 4% to 12.7LPA 2) Consulting (19%): Avg. CTC increased by 22% to 16.1LPA 3) Tech (10%) Avg. CTC increased by 29% to 15.1LPA 4)Data, Research and Analytics (10%): Avg. CTC increased by 21% to 13.5LPA *Office of Post Grad* 130 students received ~400+ offers from top global universities. Highlights include *24 Oxbridge admits* (up from 15 in ’25) and *24 Ivy League admits* (up from 13 in ’25). Students received partial scholarships *(ranging from 10% to 80%)* across master’s programs at *Yale, Columbia, UPenn, Brown, Sciences Po, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Hertie, NUS* etc. Students also earned 18 full-ride graduate masters scholarships (up from 8) including Rhodes, Gates-Cambridge, Inlaks, and Felix and 16 PhD admits, 12 fully funded.

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If you’re going to the cinemas, check the time, and reach 20 mins later, you might just catch the last ad
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international celebrity visits India package: see the gateway of India, drink some chai, visit bombay canteen
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the fact that more folks from frontier labs, from my TL are not sharing this, is in itself an indictment and proof of the point that daniel and co are making. i am curious to see who jumps on this bandwagon first, bw @DarioAmodei @elonmusk @sama and @demishassabis
Daniel Kokotajlo@DKokotajlo

In AI 2027, we predicted that AI would take over the world or irreversibly concentrate power. In AI 2040: Plan A, we've laid out our positive vision for what should happen instead.

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mourning the end of mango season with these works of art I recently saw 🥲🥭
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If you're in India and love reading about..well, everything and anything -- this book is for you, I promise. Pre-order a copy. Pre-order another for your partner. Pre-order several and hand them out like candy. Pre-order link in the next tweet because of Elon's algorithm.
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@samanth_s Smart to mention elon. If you’d have tagged him the algo would’ve rewarded you even more…
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I think it’s worth reading @willdepue’s piece in conjunction with this absolutely fascinating interview by @DrewPurves. Some takeaways: - a lot of new data collection & labelling methods/structures will be needed in the future, especially when dealing with chaotic, messy, data about the physical world. this will require innovations in incentives & a number of interesting new community/state led initiatives. dr. purves talks about how @inaturalist has been able to do that for ecological data, by channeling millions of volunteer-citizens who are collecting pictures of birds, plants, trees, with their in-house ML models accurately classifying this into an ever growing repository - honestly my mind was blown to hear that Deepmind's Perch program, which was classifying bird species through bioacoustic ecology (i.e. bird calls), ended up generalising to such an impressive extent that it transferred learnings to underwater marine mammals. that is bonkers! but that's the kind of new learnings that will develop out of better data colelction in the future i feel - last year when will was visiting india, we ended up chatting quite a bit about how data about earth systems-- rocks, rivers, crops, oceans is just so fragmented. its going to require a herculean effort to gather this, but earth sciences is going to be the next frontier that AI will transform
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A Stargate for Data Labs are on a trajectory towards >$100B/year of data spend by 2030. As we begin the trillion-dollar compute project, we need to think about the equivalent civilizational-scale effort for the other core ingredient: data. At the foundation of the scaling revolution is a simple empirical law: deep neural networks improve smoothly, near magically, as you scale two things in proportion — (1) the size of the model and (2) the amount of data you train on. And despite the scaling laws being brutally diminishing, we’ve successfully bitten the bullet of logarithmic scaling with exponentially larger clusters and datasets, and received incredible new capabilities in return. But this exponential scaling is bound to hit some limits. Oddly enough, compute has compounded fairly smoothly without limit, with trillions flowing into hypercluster buildout. Instead, we’re starting to hit the limits of an exponential demand for data. Gone are the days of being purely in the compute-limited regime, where we had effectively infinite internet data but never enough GPUs, we’re now entering a data-limited regime. Luckily, this limitation is coinciding with staggering improvements in AI capabilities. Incredibly, we seem to have a real line of sight towards automating a majority of knowledge work with the methods we have today. RL + pretraining, and the data for each, will be generally sufficient to achieve most economically valuable tasks, given some minimal algorithmic progress and continued compute scaling. In a data-limited world, economic progress & scientific acceleration will be directly bottlenecked by our coverage in each domain. We need to see data collection as imperative, deserving the same civilizational ambition we’ve given compute. The internet as a one-time subsidy It’s underrated how much all progress in AI owes everything to the blessing of the internet, this one-time civilizational subsidy to deep learning, decades of unintentional accumulation of a perfect dataset: every book, blog post, image, video, paper, discussion, etc. all digitized and freely available. Without the internet, we’d likely see comparably minimal progress in AI today, and in fact, if you notice where systems currently underperform, it’s almost always a domain where web coverage is limited and data is private, expensive, non-digitized, or non-existent. But we’re running out of it. There are only about 300 trillion tokens of useful public human text, and the internet doesn’t produce nearly enough new high-quality data to match what scaling demands — we’re soon to hit the limits of public data for pretraining. And though the advent of RL bought us reprieve — chain-of-thought RL needed a new form of untapped data, gradable math & coding tasks, also available online — we’re quickly running dry of hard tasks for RL as well. Why do we need so much data anyways? Humans learn comparably in far less time, needing just one textbook where language models might need the equivalent of hundreds to learn a new topic. It’s possible we discover methods that are massively more data efficient — synthetic data, data efficient architectures, other exotic algorithms — but fundamental progress is slow and highly unpredictable, and the recipe we have just works today. And, while I’m wary of getting too deep here, even arbitrary data efficiency can’t replace data that just doesn’t exist in the first place. There’s a massive amount of missing information on the web: the dark matter of the internet — tacit knowledge, undocumented processes, etc. — most of which was never published and lives only inside organizations, the physical world, or just in people’s heads. I’ll leave it here and say, for reasons far longer than I can fit in this post [1], it’s best to operate on the assumption that our insatiable desire for data will continue as it has for the last decade. There will be >$100B/year in data spend by 2030 We’re not screwed yet, of course. Only a fraction of useful data in the world is on the public internet, the rest is stored inside private datasets, corporations, personal archives, universities, governments, and otherwise. Labs can and will continue to license these private datasets, or create them from scratch, like Anthropic’s book scanning project. And we’ll increasingly task human experts to manufacture new high-quality data, with a large fraction of hard RL training tasks already being sourced this way. But collecting this data, unlike before, will be expensive. As the free internet dries up and demand for data rises, we should see labs investing equally in data as compute, likely spending a significant fraction of their compute budgets on data. As we see trillions spent on compute, we should also expect hundreds of billions spent on data (human data & collection budgets), given their equivalent importance. And, notably, data spend is already tracking this way: total data spend across vendors, not counting internal lab efforts, is already roughly $7 billion per year. It’s quite reasonable we’ll see >10x by 2030. Data is the moat Data becoming increasingly private will also majorly shift the competitive landscape. While compute is a commodity — everyone buys the same chips and builds the same clusters — data really isn’t. The big reason why frontier models have felt eerily similar to one another, until now, is they were trained on substantially the same internet (pretraining data variability across labs seems pretty low). As labs diverge onto more exclusive, manually collected corpora, I think models will begin to increasingly diverge. OpenAI pulling ahead in mathematics and Anthropic in cybersecurity isn’t an accident. I really think laser-focused collection of high-quality midtraining tokens, custom RL tasks, environments, with dedicated research effort, has driven much of the visible progress in the last year. James Betker has an excellent blog about “the ‘it’ in a model is the dataset”: model architecture and compute buy you efficiency and order-of-magnitude performance, but ultimately, models, of any architecture, are such incredible approximators of their dataset that the core meat of a model boils down to just that, nothing else. Data is a major moat. AGI long, ASI short As I’ve tweeted before, I’m confident that, despite the narrative, the data labeling industry will continue to fuel great businesses and be an excellent AGI long, ASI short. The argument is just: By the time the AGI labs no longer need data, it’s probably over for everything else too [2]. In this frame, the last companies left should be the data companies, as the last speck of economically relevant data is sucked in. And these companies are already among some of the fastest-growing companies in history: Mercor, founded three years ago, is rumored to be doing $2 billion in revenue with something like a few million expert labelers under contract. While these businesses are very non-stationary, what type of data is needed shifts constantly, I don’t think that diminishes their value. The long-tail of the economy is long, and the value isn’t diminishing as you extend farther into more obscure information: as models get more capable, the value of the marginal dataset goes up, not down. Automating a full job means covering its full distribution of tasks, tools, edge-cases, and long-horizon loops. There’s some O-ring logic to it: a dataset that buys a 1% bump can justify a previously unjustifiable collection cost when it’s the difference between a system that does 99% of a job and one that does all of it [3]. The competitive dynamics of the data industry are still evolving but as demand for data is increasingly niche, ultra high-quality, expert-generated, I think we’ll see real consolidation. Again, contra-narrative, we’ll probably see true competitive differentiation built on brand, quality control of data (which, from personal experience, can vary massively), as well as in network effects from the talent networks themselves over time. We’ve already seen rapidly shifting data type demand work in favor of incumbents, benefiting those with early knowledge of where the market is headed. The binding constraint It’s truly remarkable that we seem to have the recipe — pretraining + RL — to absorb most economically valuable work, despite being far from a lot of what we expected from “AGI”. The same way chess engines revealed we never needed general intelligence to solve chess, as we originally thought, we’ll soon realize that software, mathematics, and the vast majority of the economy (including physical, just running ~3 years behind!) are the same. If recursive self-improvement or some other algorithmic breakthrough arrives, that’s wonderful, but we really don’t have to wait for it. The binding constraint between here and an automated economy isn’t that, it’s data coverage: every app, workflow, edge case, process, etc. sitting in private stores or someone’s head. Ultimately, while we make tremendous strides in more efficient model architectures, and clusters like Stargate equip us with zettaflop-scale compute, we really aren’t making rapid progress collecting the data we lack. We’ll soon live in a world where we have the methods & compute to accelerate scientific progress or economic growth, but not the data. And we’re already there today: frontier models would surely be as good at accounting/many medical tasks/legal advice as they are at software engineering if we only had the same pretraining & RL coverage as we did for code. I really want to drill this in: The speed at which we automate the economy is going to be directly rate-limited by our ability to collect data about it. Worth noting that under this assumption, with data as defensible and directly proportional to economic & scientific progress, data should also be considered a national strategic asset like compute. Imagine what we’d do in a world where we had a Manhattan Project-effort for AI and needed to mobilize data collection as a limiting factor. We should be concerned about China, with greater state capacity and authoritarian economic control, being capable of mobilizing data collection at national scale, potentially compounding their economy and scientific output faster than us down the line. A Stargate for data I’m leaving my complete ideas for a future post, as this one is already far too long, so I’d really like to pose the question here. Stargate exists because we organized trillions of dollars, international strategy, gigawatts around compute as a fundamental ingredient. What would equivalent ambition look like for data? Obviously, scaling data collection, a heterogeneous mass of information across the economy, isn’t going to be as clear as scaling compute, as a homogenous infrastructural effort. A core division will be first, coverage — all uncaptured knowledge sitting across the economy/science/physical world and all that simply isn’t recorded — and, secondly, sheer volume in the domains we already train on: more hard math tasks, more high-quality web text, way more coding data, more legal drafts, etc. I have a post coming soon which breaks down my proposals. There’s a lot of room for creativity. Quickly, we’ll probably want to start with a deep census of what we have and what we’re missing, predict what the 2030 model will still be bad at and work backward to what we should be collecting today. You can probably license a large amount, leveraging high lab valuations to buy datasets or companies altogether. There’s an adversarial nature to a lot of this collection with firms, so there’s lots of engineering to do this correctly. We should go convince important companies to turn off deletion policies, even if we’re not buying from them yet. Data flywheels in consumer products will be massive. Confidential training, government legislation for grant-funded research, running companies at a loss for their data, etc. We’re headed towards hundreds of billions in expenditure, national prioritization, and major data limitation on the horizon. We have a great opportunity to think creatively about what a megaproject for data would look like: How do we, deliberately this time, construct the next internet’s worth of data? Footnotes: [1]: I’ll probably soon publish my much longer post explaining my position on data efficiency and why the value of this data is still pretty high in most worlds regardless of new algorithms. [2]: The “AGI freeroll” bet: heads you win, tails ASI flips the world upside down anyways. [3]: We already see a glint of validation of this point, given the data market is strongly tilting towards ultra-high-quality agentic data, rather than unskilled labeling — niche expert workflows, live environments, and evaluations requiring increasingly obscure talent & knowledge — yet shows increasing, not decreasing, revenues.

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Dhruv Sharma@dhruvsharma_in·
@sparshselim Yep, ask Claude why it uses negative parallelism to sound authoritative on a subject, and it’ll give you a nice soliloquy
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while claude's capabilities are godlike, i've started going back to chatgpt for better writing. i dont see claudisms like "its not x, its y" which im tired of reading all around me. i wonder if others are going through such a similar shift?
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i have to second this. i recently found out about our own "expansion plans" on random news websites. absolutely bizarre to see so many inaccurate, unverified, and stubbornly incorrect reporting taking place about early stage private companies. once such news pieces are disputed, journalists and editors refuse to even issue erratas. when they do, it's buried deep behind the paywall. the headline which has done damage will still remain. i think its important to point out that startups anyway have odds stacked against them. we could do with some better reporting at the very least. shoutout to some folks doing this well: - @RuntimeBRT by @caleb_friesen - @RahulSanghi1 @AaryamanVir at tigerfeathers - @SwarajyaMag's latest pieces on indian science/tech - @neutranino's deep pieces in @the_hindu - @ShadmaShaikh's in depth features
Awais Ahmed@awaisahmedna

Lots of inaccurate news spreading around about Pixxel these days in the media. Every day I wake up and learn new things about Pixxel I didn't know before. For example, we have apparently raised 3 times the last 3 months! Things are great but not that great. Honestly, sad state of affairs with this clamoring to get exclusives and leaks. Instead of verifying inaccurate claims that some companies make on their achievements. Anyhow, if there's anything to announce we'll do it from our official handles only! Until then please ignore.

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I've been a keen admirer & close reader of @scroll_in. More so now than ever. So often, we come up with an article we'd like to commission. As we start researching about it, we realise that @tajmahalfoxtrot has already published some version of it before. It gives us great pleasure to see @chandhana's remarkable piece on Ice Creams published in our favourite Indian magazine!
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