Sphere CM

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Sphere CM

Sphere CM

@sphere_cm

co-founder, @hyperdrivedefi

Singapore Katılım Aralık 2022
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Sphere CM
Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
You: if only someone would solve liquidations for RWA! DM me asap and join my expert council so we can discuss options! <panicked, short of breath> Narrator: He didn’t know Hyperdrive already solved that Me: yeah we solved that, let’s talk You: <should I DM? Nah> Exeunt
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Maybe I should get verified. Nikita not letting me solve everyone’s RWA pain points, which I most certainly have done.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
Seeing a lot of RWA people complaining about the exact problem we solve. “DM me.”
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3/ No narrow liquidator pool. No AML gap. No pre-approved buyers. "The products that break through won't be the biggest. They'll be the ones that solved the liquidator problem first." Agreed. That's exactly what we built. @hyperdrivedefi Correlated Markets.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
2/ All three still assume you need external liquidators. That's the dependency nobody's questioning. There's a fourth option: build lending infrastructure where the collateral redeems at its contractual value and the liquidator problem doesn't exist.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
1/ Solid thread. Three models for solving the 88% problem: 1. Permissioned DeFi pools (KYC the liquidators) 2. Wrapper models (compliance at issuance, AML gap in secondary) 3. Access-layer compliance (KYC at mint/redeem, permissionless in between) What if there’s a 4th?
RWA Llama@RwaLlama

The RWA market hit $25B. Good news. Now here's the bad news: 88% of it can't touch DeFi. The compliance architecture that made institutional adoption possible is the same thing blocking DeFi composability. Here's what's blocking it and where the solutions are converging. 🦙🔍

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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
What the hell are we? We are the onchain credit layer for real-world finance.
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When your liquidators are financially incentivized to let bad debt accumulate, you have a ticking time bomb in RWA-land.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
Morpho built a system where liquidators make more money the longer they let your position rot. Now ask yourself if that's the architecture you want for trillions in tokenized RWAs.
Cain O'Sullivan@cainosullivan

Why Morpho Isn't a Great Fit for RWAs. Morpho is designed around the deployment of immutable markets. A market is defined by its loan token, collateral token, price oracle, and risk parameters; the interest rate model, LTV, and liquidation discount (inferred from the LTV). This is great from a lender's perspective. When you deploy capital to a market, you know exactly what you're lending against and that the terms won't change. But the fundamental problem with this design is that it assumes risk is static, when risk is very much dynamic. What do I mean by this? As a lender, when you deploy capital to a market you have a holistic view of the current world state. You might deploy to a market offering a 91.5% LTV (which infers a 2.62% liquidation discount) where the collateral has plenty of on-chain liquidity available for liquidators. But what happens when that on-chain liquidity starts to disappear? The risk profile of the market has changed, but the parameters haven't. Morpho's solution is to deploy a new market with updated risk parameters that better capture the shift in the external environment. In practice, it's not that simple. If liquidity in the original market is currently being borrowed, borrowers are unlikely to voluntarily migrate their positions to a new market with a lower LTV and a higher liquidation discount. This becomes even more precarious with RWAs, which carry a fundamentally different risk profile from spot tokens. Liquidators go from taking on price risk to taking on duration risk. Let's look at a concrete example. Take the Anemoy Tokenized Apollo Diversified Credit Fund (ACRDX) and assume we deploy a market with an 86.5% LTV, that equates to roughly a 4.22% liquidation discount. ACRDX has quarterly liquidity, so to keep things simple, assume redemptions only occur on the 1st of every quarter. If a position is liquidated on day 1 of a new cycle, the 4.22% discount is probably sufficient to cover the duration risk and opportunity cost of waiting 90 days for the liquidator's redemption to settle. But if the position is liquidated on day 89, the same 4.22% is far more punitive as the liquidator only has to bear one day of duration risk for the same reward. This creates a perverse incentive. Liquidators are encouraged to wait as long as possible before seizing a position, since the longer they delay, the better their risk-adjusted return on the liquidation becomes. By design, this heightens the probability of bad debt accumulating in the market. Risk modelling in a lending market needs to be dynamic. It needs to respond to the specific characteristics of the collateral it's modelling, not treat every asset class as if it carries the same static risk profile. What's good for spot tokens isn't necessarily good for RWA's.

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Graham Ferguson
Graham Ferguson@grahamfergs·
Pulling together the top minds in RWAs / tokenization for something big. If you live at the intersection of TradFi / DeFi, shoot me a note.
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Hyperdrive
Hyperdrive@hyperdrivedefi·
Breaking it down, Traditional DeFi lending on a tokenized credit fund: → Oracle-dependent pricing → 65-70% LTV → Liquidators who won't touch illiquid assets → Bad debt when they don't show up Our Correlated Markets: → Prices off redemption value → 90%+ LTV → No liquidator dependency → Deterministic settlement Same asset. Fundamentally different infrastructure.
Sphere CM@sphere_cm

Tokenization gives you the exit door. But DeFi lending puts a bouncer in front of it called "liquidators" who only let you through when it's profitable for them. Private credit needs lending infrastructure built for redeemable assets, not volatile ones.

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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
Leverage markets built on redemption, not liquidation. Send it. Don’t throttle this shit, Nikita. Hyperdrive is gold, baby. Gold.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
Tokenization gives you the exit door. But DeFi lending puts a bouncer in front of it called "liquidators" who only let you through when it's profitable for them. Private credit needs lending infrastructure built for redeemable assets, not volatile ones.
Gabor Gurbacs@gaborgurbacs

Private credit is a ~$2 Trillion market and growing. Now 5 major private credit funds halted redemptions. The assets are illiquid but investors expect liquidity and price discovery. This is exactly what tokenization solves.

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Hyperdrive@hyperdrivedefi·
“Leverage as infrastructure.” Many people think of leverage purely as gambling. We’re changing that. Every major DeFi blowup - Celsius, BlockFi, LUNA cascades, bad debt events on AAVE and Compound - had the same root cause: the liquidation system failed. Hyperdrives’s Correlated Markets are the first lending primitive designed around a different assumption: if your collateral has a contractual redemption path, you don’t need oracles or liquidators at all. Hyperdrive is the lending infrastructure for assets that can be redeemed, not just sold.
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Rob Hadick >|<
Rob Hadick >|<@HadickM·
Ok, who is the single smartest builder/operator in the SF fintech scene on agentic payments?
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
What’s a “correlated market?” When two assets have a defined relationship (“1 RWA token = 1.05 USDC on Hyperdrive”), our markets can offer a lot more leverage with a lot less liquidation risk. Our architecture is the future of RWA Looping.
Hyperdrive@hyperdrivedefi

Correlated Markets. Next week.

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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
2/ With correlated assets it gets worse. Price risk becomes duration risk. Liquidators won't hold inventory through a redemption window. Curators liquidate their own markets. It's chaos. Lenders deserve the liquidation premium. That's the thesis behind Correlated Markets.
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Sphere CM@sphere_cm·
1/ Liquidators are overpaid. They take no risk. Flashloans mean zero capital. They only act when profit is guaranteed. Meanwhile lenders, the actual risk bearers, get left holding bad debt when things go to shit.
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