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@anitamaxxing @root0cosmo and I'm gonna be super real with you. "antisemitism" has lost all meaning. nowadays it just means you don't like Israel, and how could you? to worry about "antisemitism" amidst a genocide based on Jewish supremacy is dumb and a waste of energy. focus on the real issues, please.
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@anitamaxxing @root0cosmo how is it antisemitic to say that Jewish people's feelings aren't relevant amidst a genocide perpetuated by Jewish supremacists? again, why is this even a discussion?
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the position of BE + others is as follows:
'I do not care if nazis are killing people. I do not care if I act, behave, and think like a Nazi. I hate Israel. Therefore, i am allowed to do whatever the fuck I want.'
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They’re all falling apart. Someone needs to make a list of all of the streamers who take the position that Jewish supremacists’ feelings are more important than being principled about not voting for liberal Zionists, so we know to boycott them all.
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never would’ve guessed the wokest pope would be the american lol
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Pope Leo XIV on AI: “Artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed. The word [disarmed] is strong I know, but deliberately chosen because this moment needs words capable of attracting attention, awakening consciences, and indicating paths forward for humanity.”
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@Xhoggelito Bad Empanada will be the Stalin of the group and execute Hasan and Mamdani, establishing a global dictatorship
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2050 world socialist republic politburo:
- Hasan Piker
- Noam Chomsky (somehow still alive)
- Bad Empanada
- Zohran Mamdani
- Amadeus Bolshevik
- Jean-Luc Mélenchon
@root0cosmo you too seem like a decent person, and I appreciate you taking the time to engage in this conversation. in the end, I hope at least we share the dream of Palestinian liberation from the settler colonialist state of Israel.
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@spider3nby Okay. I can't make you think different if you don't want to think different. I can only lay that out for you as clear as i can.
You seem like a decent person, and i wish you all the best. But i can't change your mind if you have made it up and refuse to change it.
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@spider3nby They perpetuate it, sure. But for jews who live elsewhere in the world, you state they are beneficiaries of 'jewish supremacy.'
Therefore, you state that these jews are benefitting from islamophobia or perpetuate it by their very existence.
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@root0cosmo I'm trying to see what you're saying, I really am, but I really don't think that's enough for BE or anyone to help Nazis in any meaningful way.
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@spider3nby simple. Nazis use it and propagate their ideology with it. You say 'ZOG' and mean you hate israel. ZOG, which predates you, spreads. The same nazis who shoot up mosques, schools, join the police, join ICE, etc have their water carried.
For free.
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@root0cosmo @thelonelyrider_ you know damn well it's not just "one Jewish guy". be fr
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@thelonelyrider_ @spider3nby so like one jewish guy represents millions of people around the world
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@root0cosmo I'm not trying to ragebait when I say this, but I don't really think I am
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@spider3nby okay, but you do realize that you're setting the bar for proof to him becoming a nazi even after admitting that you can still help nazis without being one, right?
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@root0cosmo I didn't say jews started it, I must've expressed myself wrong, but Zionists jews definitely perpetuate it
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@spider3nby Islamophobia predates the state of israel, there is zero evidence that it began with jews, and YOU were the one to state that it has it's origins in the jewish people.
that's the point. You have your facts wrong and draw everything from there.
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@root0cosmo we'll have to agree to disagree about the use of "goy" as a derogatory term. and how does it affect black and brown people, like myself, I might add? and it's a genuine question
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@spider3nby but then, when they DO this, it's the bare minimum EVEN AS you state that you have zero obligation to stop using a white supremacist conspiracy theory which not only endangers THESE people, but millions of black and brown people.
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@root0cosmo I think words can mutate and change spaces, and if BE goes full Nazi then I'll admit my mistake. but honest to God I don't think this is it
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@spider3nby So if you agree that you don't have to be a nazi to carry water for nazis, that the US government is not 'occupied' by zionists, and that 'ZOG' is itself a white supremacist conspiracy theory,
you'd agree that people who use it are both incorrect and helping nazis unknowingly.
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@root0cosmo definitely most of them, but THEN AGAIN, what's the point of all this???
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@spider3nby i'm sorry, but all jewish people are not responsible for islamophobia.
Because that's the logic you've just presented. Lmk if i need to spell that out.
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@root0cosmo see, that's what I don't get. why is being Jewish so important??? oh, there are jews who are anti-israel? bare fucking minimum. there are Americans who are anti-trump? bare fucking minimum
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@spider3nby did you ignore the part where i said an active movement to rob the state of israel of it's expressed political purpose or does this also fall under 'jewish feelings' because a jew was present and the nerve to draw breath
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@root0cosmo I don't, in any way, consider myself a moderate btw, and I agree with you on this topic
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@spider3nby I don't think you need to be a nazi to carry water for them in the same way you don't need to be a KKK member to be a racist.
If anything, this construction of a a moderate who cannot in any way meaningfully be bigoted is a universal problem.
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@root0cosmo I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that Zionists around the world can say stuff like all Palestinians/Muslims are terrorists and not face any repercussions
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@spider3nby A mutually beneficial alliance, to be sure. But 'jewish supremacy' doesn't exist outside of Israel or Israeli foreign policy meaningfully.
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@root0cosmo because honestly, and as I said before, us stopping in our tracks to think on how some people might feel about certain words being used while there's a genocide going on is a waste of time and energy
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@spider3nby because it robs the state of israel of it's legitimacy by disproving it's central tenet, that it is the sole and legitimate representation of the Jewish people.
JVP and anti-zionist jewish groups have grown rapidly among the young. Why is this the hill to die on?
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@StephanieGailW but what's the point if there's a genocide happening on behalf of Jewish supremacy as we speak??? shouldn't we focus on what's really important?
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@spider3nby I'm pointing out that there are people who claim to be anti-Zionist but they're doing that. The more people help blur the line between Judaism and Zionism, the better for Israel to push their bullshit about being "the only safe place for Jews". Anti-Zionists should be clear.
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@root0cosmo well for one, I don't think that badempanada, his followers or myself are nazis
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@spider3nby the us government is not 'occupied' by zionists. Israel, was, and remains a proxy and the ruling class of the United States supports zionism willingly because it suits it's imperialist interests.
And i'd agree with you if you could show me how the term has changed.
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