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Katılım Eylül 2022
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@0xcarlisle marketsxyz HIP-3 winding down with USDH is not priced in
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carlisle@0xcarlisle·
Maybe the beta wasn’t some perp dex, but something right in front of your eyes
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@dschamis technologies which make humans more productive vs the technology which replicates human’s abilities in cheaper, faster and better way (maybe not today, but think in 3 years) are not the same thing
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@izebel_eth @papertrade_xyz @blurr hmm it looks like a ponzified GMX. Will run a bot trading BTC 1000x randomly and earning from variance with PAPER emissions
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@lttlanna if XLP is not a backstop, why don’t you charge a liquidation fee which would be shared with XLP holders without all these tricks? It’s not a liquidity provider, it’s a liquidation intermediate
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Little Anna@lttlanna·
Extended Vault is primarily a yield product and this is what users want from it, and on top of that it's a collateral efficiency product It acts as a backstop liquidity provider for healthy trading, quoting across all markets in all environments, but it does not serve as a backstop liquidity provider for liquidations
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Little Anna@lttlanna·
the Extended Vault turns 1 year old today - $111M TVL - 14k depositors - $4M PnL on $1.4B traded - 9.58% 1 year APR but the most interesting part is the design and the most important part there is how liquidations are handled how HLP works HLP takes over a position first, then closes it. that gap - between inheriting a position and unwinding it - is where things can go wrong Jelly-jelly incident: someone opens a large illiquid position, manipulates the mark price, forces a liquidation. HLP inherits a position it can't close at a reasonable price. unrealized loss balloons to $10M before the team manually intervened and delisted the token the ETH incident: a trader with a $335M long withdrew margin to force liquidation. HLP took over the position. $4M loss. the Vault had had to deal with whatever it inherited these aren't edge cases. they're the predictable result of a design where the Vault commits to a position before it knows what that position will cost how the Extended Vault handles liquidations the Vault closes the position before taking ownership, atomically, in a single operation user has a 1 BTC long being liquidated → Vault shorts 1 BTC on the open market → knows the exact execution price and the exact bankruptcy price of the liquidated user → calculates P&L of this liquidation to USDC precision → only if the loss is within predefined limits does the trade settle. if not - the short reverts, Vault never touches the position, it goes to ADL three limits apply to every liquidation: 1/ max loss per trade (per market, stricter for less liquid assets) 2/ max cumulative loss per market per day 3/ max total Vault loss from liquidations: 15% of balance per day the Extended Vault knows its P&L before it commits. it cannot be forced to absorb a loss it didn't pre-approve jelly-style attack on Extended: Vault attempts the close, calculates it would breach loss limits, reverts, position goes to ADL. the attack vector doesn't exist by design what else is different from other Vaults usually deposits sit in a pool earning yield, separate from your trading margin on Extended, Vault shares (XVS) count as 90% collateral. same capital earns yield and functions as trading margin simultaneously - yield-bearing collateral, not a separate allocation yield has three sources: 1/ market making PnL + maker rebates across all markets, beta-neutral positioning, dynamic spreads based on volatility 2/ 1% liquidation fee on every healthy liquidation 3/ fee share distributed to depositors year one of Extended Vault done no socialized losses. no emergency interventions. no manual overrides. Expecting more
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Loris@0xLoris·
one more annoying set of dispersed, inscrutable information has been simplified and consolidated by the geniuses over at @LorisTools way to go fellas, love what you're building over there x.com/LorisTools/sta…
Loris Tools@LorisTools

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altoshi@stablealt·
@exitpumpBTC most price discovery for BTC happens at OTCs, BTC spot OBs are mostly noise
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exitpump@exitpumpBTC·
$BTC Spot market is more interested buying at 74k - 73.5k levels, large bids there.
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altoshi@stablealt·
EMA, RSI, MACD, etc. are price-based indicators and don't give you any information rather than the price in another form. This type of indicators don't give you an information which may make the price prediction more precise, because... they're price-based. If you were CZ / Binance MM and wanted the bull trend to start, wouldn't you liquidate longs (take their inventory) before pushing the price higher (on spot)? We haven't seen longs huntings, in this 2mo range, all lows were higher-lows without liq hunts. 25/28 accuracy in the last 5 years.
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androolloyd.hl@androolloyd·
the yellow (672 ema is mean) this is the 4h mean regression imho we will break above and test the top of the range, fair value of a btc atm is between 70-80k if you are bullish, bear value is 60-70k. we're holding directionally very strong on an elongated time frame. A breakout is above 80k and shorts then shorts are at risk pricing the rest of the move. Intra day will swing but direction is unchanged.
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altoshi@stablealt·
Jeff’s close friend at university was Vlad’s co-founder at Lunchclub The world is not that big
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Colossus@colossusmag

This is the story of Hyperliquid, the most profitable startup per employee on earth, told from a guarded office in Singapore. Last year, its team of 11 generated $900 million in profit. It's 3 years old, has never taken a dollar of venture capital, and is beginning to change how century-old markets work. Its founder, Jeffrey Yan (@chameleon_jeff), had never taken a physics class when he picked up a textbook at 16. Two years later, he won gold at the International Physics Olympiad. In 2019, he started trading with $10,000 from a living room in Puerto Rico—working off a television because he didn't own a monitor. Within 3 years, he was running one of the largest anonymous crypto trading firms. Then he shut it down. Yan was rich and free, but he had spent years inside crypto, watching it betray itself. Bitcoin's central premise was decentralization. Yet the biggest exchanges were centralized. Crypto kept reintroducing the dependence on trust it was built to eliminate. He set out to create what should have existed. Hyperliquid is a blockchain with a trading exchange on top, and anyone can build on it. Yan's vision is to house all of finance. In 3 years, it has done over $4 trillion in volume. And in the past few months, it has begun to outgrow crypto. Markets for oil, silver, and the S&P 500 now trade on Hyperliquid around the clock, weekends included, and are growing roughly 40% week on week. When the US and Israel bombed Iran on a Saturday in February, Hyperliquid was the venue traders turned to. Hyperliquid's success has cost Yan his freedom. He works out of a secret office in Singapore and cannot travel without two bodyguards. Even the team's housekeeper doesn't know what they do. In January, @domcooke spent a week at their office. Read his profile on Yan and @HyperliquidX below.

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androolloyd.hl@androolloyd·
99% of traders are unprofitable.
altoshi@stablealt

75% of Hyperliquid addresses are net unprofitable. When you see a trader-KOL with smart face on your feed, there is roughly a 3/4 chance that it lost money on perps. Once you understand how financial markets work, you will quit all discretional trading. Most .hl accounts you see in your feed are net unprofitable (go check their addresses) and the only ones profitable were either quantitatives (like @0xLoris) or were on the positive side of variance, i.e., luck (e.g., @NMTD8) p.s., if you solely rely on 'gut feeling' (luck), mathematically less painful for you would be playing a casino. A core reason discretionary traders suffer losses is market efficiency. In highly liquid and informationally dense markets, like commodities, large-cap cryptocurrencies, equities, and major indices, new information is priced into mark prices at remarkable speed. The news you just read? Already priced in. The technical indicator you rely on? Also priced in. Quantitative firms and exchanges operate with superior infrastructure, data access, and execution capabilities, making it exceptionally difficult (almost impossible) for manual traders to sustain an edge. Mathematically, the structure of these markets favor makers and systematic participants, while takers, particularly uninformed discretionary ones, face a persistent negative expected value, with the narrow exception of non-directional strategies with minimized costs, such as points farming. If you're an uniformed discretional trader (99.9% of readers), the most +EV course of action may be counterintuitive but is well-supported by the data: 1) Delete all trading apps (esp. mobile ones) 2) Quit all trading 3) Be on the side of the profitable exchanges (i.e., get exposure to them via their coinized shares, such as $HYPE, $LIT, $BNB) 4) Become a maker (p.s., providing exit liquidity through AMMs or retail tools like treadfi is extremely negative expected value for you) Hyperliquid

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altoshi@stablealt·
75% of Hyperliquid addresses are net unprofitable. When you see a trader-KOL with smart face on your feed, there is roughly a 3/4 chance that it lost money on perps. Once you understand how financial markets work, you will quit all discretional trading. Most .hl accounts you see in your feed are net unprofitable (go check their addresses) and the only ones profitable were either quantitatives (like @0xLoris) or were on the positive side of variance, i.e., luck (e.g., @NMTD8) p.s., if you solely rely on 'gut feeling' (luck), mathematically less painful for you would be playing a casino. A core reason discretionary traders suffer losses is market efficiency. In highly liquid and informationally dense markets, like commodities, large-cap cryptocurrencies, equities, and major indices, new information is priced into mark prices at remarkable speed. The news you just read? Already priced in. The technical indicator you rely on? Also priced in. Quantitative firms and exchanges operate with superior infrastructure, data access, and execution capabilities, making it exceptionally difficult (almost impossible) for manual traders to sustain an edge. Mathematically, the structure of these markets favor makers and systematic participants, while takers, particularly uninformed discretionary ones, face a persistent negative expected value, with the narrow exception of non-directional strategies with minimized costs, such as points farming. If you're an uniformed discretional trader (99.9% of readers), the most +EV course of action may be counterintuitive but is well-supported by the data: 1) Delete all trading apps (esp. mobile ones) 2) Quit all trading 3) Be on the side of the profitable exchanges (i.e., get exposure to them via their coinized shares, such as $HYPE, $LIT, $BNB) 4) Become a maker (p.s., providing exit liquidity through AMMs or retail tools like treadfi is extremely negative expected value for you) Hyperliquid
CoinAnk@CoinAnk

📊According to the data from #CoinAnk's Hyperliquid Wallet Data, monitoring 287,190 addresses: Profitable addresses: 59,411 Unprofitable addresses: 180,846 Percentage of unprofitable addresses: 75.27% The overall long/short positions of CoinAnk’s monitored wallets are currently roughly neutral. 🔗:coinank.com/hyperliquid/wa…

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altoshi@stablealt·
About six months after the USDH proposal, Native Markets’ $USDH supply stands at $154.79 million across HyperEVM and HyperCore. Over the same period, Paxos-issued $USDG circulating supply has reached $1.862 billion, an increase of about $1.3 billion since the USDH proposal. Paxos USDG supply has grown by 8.4x more than Native Markets USDH during that timeframe.
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Which Hyperliquid frontend do you use?
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altoshi@stablealt·
@AriEiberman You might get a higher risk by using “native” borrowing protocols over wrapping BTC via trusted custodians and use it on Ethereum tier-1 protocols
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Ari Eiberman 🇦🇷 Stablecards
I’m a bit embarrassed to ask this, but… Where can I take out a loan using self-custodied Bitcoin as collateral? With a low APY, obviously. And preferably no wBTC or similar wrappers 🙏
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There is a correlation between personal psychology and “edge” in discretionary trading. Many people are too subjective in financial markets and build parallels between their personal real-life convictions and their trading behavior. For example, a person who values loyalty, such as loyalty to family, homeland, or beliefs, may also project these patterns onto their trading. Such a person may value “diamond hands,” hate selling or seeing others sell, treat their positions as part of their identity, and feel personally insulted when their positions are criticized. The reason over-subjective trading is long-term negative EV for you is that the market does not care about anything, including anyone’s opinions. Financial markets are highly complex machines that, in the end, transfer money from 'takers' to 'makers', from those who over-consume value to those who create and add value capital efficiently. Pure capitalism. That is why there are only three types of profitable traders: 1. Quantitative traders, with zero subjectivity, who solve inefficiencies. 2. Lucky traders, where variance has created a lucky streak during their trading. 3. Discretionary traders who minimize emotional subjectivity. These are basically a subtype of quants, but without complex algorithms and big data. The secret to being a profitable trader is either to be extremely lucky, which is almost impossible and statistically negative EV to rely on, or to be an observer who identifies inefficiencies and efficiently sells to takers. Remember: the market does not care what you think. Many people are simply better traders when they trade on paper because PnL, account balances, and holding positions introduce subjectivity and destroy their judgment. They start overthinking and asking themselves questions like, “What if I get liquidated?” which pushes them into becoming 'takers' and taking bad positions. Hyperliquid.
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altoshi@stablealt·
@hydromancerxyz you guys, probably, are the most under appreciated team on Hyperliquid. Rockstars!
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