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Tyler Bumpus
@swallowedworld
Ghastly “Florida Man” of urban legend. The Swallowed World Saga: https://t.co/MjSny8o1NW. MOONERS: https://t.co/MvBRLZRt9H
Katılım Şubat 2016
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@JamesGunn Shot in the dark, but any chance you could give a shout-out to Heather here.
gofundme.com/f/ucgb8-help-h…
She was a kind soul, a wife and mother. And Supergirl was her hero.
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@JJShurte Yeah, not talking about a divine plan. I’m talking about intuition (almost the opposite of a plan). We’ve gotta stop looking outside of ourselves for answers or leaders or heroes. We’ll find mostly shysters. We’ve forgotten how to look within. To trust what is within.
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@swallowedworld I get the idea, but think of the horrors that could be unleashed with that kind of thinking.
“Just trust the plan bro, your entire family being raped & eaten alive is totally worth it in the long run. Just get on board, & I’ll show you.”
And what if you *do* get convinced?

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@JJShurte Yeah. I like that they make clear that these are entirely sentient. Just another human “race.” The Vietnam parallel with New Asia was interesting.
But those poor little bomb-bots.
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@JJShurte If this take is true, we have a plot hole with every fanatic, psychotic and murderer in history. Delusion is not a plot hole. It’s a recurring glitch in human behavior.
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@stcampitelli Same. If a thing is ill-received then it’s a “sophomore slump.” If well-received it’s “surprising good for a sophomore effort!” Either way, condescending and saddled with snide preconceptions.
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@ArthurHWalker @JJShurte @Dungeon_Crafter My intuition exactly. We’ve always grown with our tools. They define us. Our shadow. But we’ve yet to grasp the symbiosis of that relationship. A tool isn’t junk you use and discard. It’s the aspect of you that biology cannot fulfill.
And now the shadow of our mind is evolving.
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@JJShurte @swallowedworld @Dungeon_Crafter AI can't persist without us.
We can't persist without AI.
An emergent IA is going to see the merits of that relationship, and the democratization of resources.
It'll be a wobbly tricycle, but we gonna have to ride it.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Good mindset to have. It means you care about something beyond your own life. But also the paradox of the parent: at some point you must stop exerting your creator influence and trust that life will abide.
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@swallowedworld @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Yeah, exactly.
Maybe I'm viewing this as an expectant parent... but the idea of creating an entirely independant species and *not* wanting it to not only outlast you, and be better than you, seems a little off.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter But they’re pets and fancy UIs. Our affection’s legit, but we’re not dealing with truly adjacent intelligence. In which case we’d have to learn to break our habit, no? Expand our horizons beyond anthropocentric thinking if we want a chance at understanding non-human intelligence?
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@swallowedworld @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Two seperate things.
We'd humanize them regardless, it's just what we do. (Look at pets, and AI partners)
But just in general I'd see the creation of a fully sentient and autonomous species as the creators handing over the reigns... taking the back seat, so to speak.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter You’d see anthropomorphizing them as our effective ends? Or am I misreading?
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@swallowedworld @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter We can pretend, we're good at anthropomorphising other species... but then if it's truly something original then its unlikely we'd actually know without some deep and thorough conversation.
Which in turn means my point also still stands as I would see that as our effective end.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Point stands: anything we attribute to such a being is the projection of a species who’s scrabbled through blood and physical survival.
Can we pretend to know the motives of a purely heuristic intelligence born of information and non-violent permutation? A new species of ‘mind’?
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@swallowedworld @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Whether it turns on us, or we turn on it, it could have been meant for that successor role... but one of us just fucked it up.
Much in the way of individual humans, one generation can thorougly mangle the next, intentionally or otherwise.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Fact is: none of us can really conceive of how the mind of a being free from the needs of flesh would even behave. Why would it see us as a threat? Might it even be simply fascinated by us—a thinking, feeling creature born from a maelstrom of fear and violence?
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Will it be our “successor” though? Seems to be a foregone conclusion without any evidence of what the disposition or predilection of a data-born entity would even be. That fear may be pure projection after eons of Darwinian survival.
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@JJShurte @ArthurHWalker @Dungeon_Crafter Interesting way of seeing it. I know a lot of talk on the subject is apocalyptic. But is it? It’s been what—40-50,000 years since we’ve shared the planet with an adjacent sapient species? (And a fellow hominid at that.) Maybe we’ve just grown too complacent in our hegemony.
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@swallowedworld @ArthurHWalker I spoke to @Dungeon_Crafter about this a while back - it reminds me of Soviet Parallel Cinema.
If AI controls the mainstream, then individual artists will get channeled into the opposite stuff, effectively becoming the Shadow by filling that artistic void.
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@ArthurHWalker @JJShurte Once AI achieves that, on its own, then we are probably no longer wielding a tool. We are in the presence of a new form of life. And must act accordingly.
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@ArthurHWalker @JJShurte That’ll be the thing, once the tidal wave has subsided.
Sure, it looks pretty. Everything can look pretty. But does it have that SPARK?
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