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Cade Swindle

@swindlecade

Louisville, KY Katılım Ekim 2016
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
“Now that [the Abrahamic covenant] was not the pure covenant of grace, in distinction from the covenant of works, but rather a covenant of works, will soon be proved; and if so, then the main ground of infant’s baptism is taken away” John Gill
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
@brandon_adams “[The old covenant] did not exhibit Christ present, only in figure, in promise, and in prophesy… but it did not hold forth salvation as wrought out by him… under it the propitiation, reconciliation, and satisfaction for sin, were not made, nor redemption from it obtained” -Gill
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Brandon Adams
Brandon Adams@brandon_adams·
Are the Old and the New covenants actually one and the same (in substance)? The sole foundation of this claim is that some people in the OC were saved, therefore it must be the same covenant.
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Truth Vindicated
Truth Vindicated@TruthVindicated·
Does the existence of an intratrinitarian Covenant of Redemption imply a multiplicity of wills within the Godhead? Obviously we don't affirm the conclusion, but it's an interesting critique. Help me think.
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
@JosiahHawthorne Which group came first is irrelevant to this question. The point is that John Smyth’s influence on the SBC and Baptists today is minimal as his congregation largely became Mennonites. The Particular Baptists had much greater influence on later Baptists.
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Josiah Hawthorne
Josiah Hawthorne@JosiahHawthorne·
Oh no, not an Anabaptist. Trivia question for William: who was John Smyth? And who was he inspired by?
Josiah Hawthorne tweet media
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
@JosiahHawthorne I missed the part where John Smyth is in any way connected to “Baptists” or “Southern Baptists.” Please do tell, what happened to Smyth’s congregation after he died?
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Josiah Hawthorne
Josiah Hawthorne@JosiahHawthorne·
@swindlecade That's nice. I must've missed the part where the term "Baptists" or even "Southern Baptists" only ever means Particular Baptists, though.
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Post Tenebras Lux 🦡™️ - DR SCN Templar
@Yehoshua_x27 @CollinE1689 Not at all. That’s the general consensus among Puritan independents, congregationalists, etc. The only people holding to anything close to the mod view of radical pluralism were anabaptists & their offshoot sects. It was very recently people started dividing the decalogue in 2.
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Post Tenebras Lux 🦡™️ - DR SCN Templar
I would clarify this is really anabaptist political thought. Historical Particular Baptists held no such nonsense. Also, any Baptist scared of being persecuted by Presbys should turn his man card in & go join Joel Osteen’s church. We don’t need effeminate cowards.
Stephen Wolfe@PerfInjust

Two contradictory propositions that explain (some) Baptist political thought: 1) Their greatest fear is that they'll be persecuted for their faith. 2) Their greatest desire is that they are persecuted for their faith.

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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
@jake_stone89 What do you have in mind about how it impacts one’s view of the state?
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Jake Stone
Jake Stone@jake_stone89·
Baptist understandings of the covenants borrowed from Reformed categories but it was distinct. A specific hermeneutic developed that served as the biblical foundation for how Baptists viewed the New Covenant community. That impacts how one understands the sacraments and the state
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
“There can be no foundation for such a distinction between a covenant of redemption in eternity, and a covenant of grace in time.” John Gill
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Jake Stone
Jake Stone@jake_stone89·
Well, I just submitted my final assignment for the M.Div! I graduate in two weeks! Very surreal feeling! SDG!
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Cade Swindle
Cade Swindle@swindlecade·
@jake_stone89 A little off topic, but could Backus be considered a 1689 federalist? I’m currently working on a paper on John Gill’s covenant theology, so would be interesting to know how Backus is using Gill.
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Jake Stone
Jake Stone@jake_stone89·
@Particular_Drew @swindlecade @justinvanriper @JustaManiReckon Ha! It is a while before then. I’ll point out that while Backus cites Gill on baptism and covenant theology, he never cites him on matters of civil government. Most all London Baptists supported the American Revolution. Hardly squares with Gill’s views being mainstream
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