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@Queen_Ishura Hell im not even advocating that they dont change. Its good to see ppl rise from their ashes. I just dont want to lose the part that made them different from any other generic fantasy magic elf. Having some edge and morally questionable parts of their society was interesting

@syclone369 it’s not even necessarily new, I feel like the OG Saltheril’s Haven stuff and some other TBC era quests spoke to how much belves didn’t want to acknowledge the downfall of their people. But I think that creates an interesting friction too where some people want to ignore it

ironically while the green is a huge part of our idea of belf aesthetic, it’s not as significant in the lore. the belf crest is blue, not green, and all of the fel crystals were a temporary measure put in place after the Sunwell’s destruction. it makes sense they’d phase them out

@Queen_Ishura Which is a shame. History adds to your depth. Where you came from. What shaped you as a people. Im kinda shocked the deadscar is even healed tbh.

@syclone369 Outside of the Lightbloom, there’s not a single reference to the Dead Scar, barely more than two references (in Prey) to the Wretched, and only one questline (Amalthea) that talks about the undead. The belves are not in the habit of acknowledging the darker parts of their past

@Queen_Ishura That too but they found them both repugnant. I can see WHY they left. I just dont see the need to sand down the coolest parts lof the race. They belonged in the horde for a reason. They did things other races turned their nose up at. Since the horde was more accepting of that.

@syclone369 Well technically the high elves didn’t just leave over the fel, they left bc they didn’t want to satisfy their magical addiction by draining living creatures (which the belves did), they found it morally repugnant.

@Queen_Ishura “Eventhough we dont condone the use of fel any longer , we still venerate and remember that dark time by using these Eversong Emeralds. A reminder of the terrible things we had to do. A path we hope not to walk again”

@Queen_Ishura Besides we already have the high elves who opposed and left cuz of the fel. Why do belves need to deny that part? Its like blending both sides together. Even fi they dont openly embrace it. They can acknowledge it via the emeralds. Give Npcs dialog explaining the color.

@Queen_Ishura Doing whatever it takes to survive. Even using the corruptive, dangerous magic to get by. Even now if its not fully embraced it should have its place. The smoothing out of edges , espeically to horde races, has been a common and terrible trope the last few years. MHGA.

@Queen_Ishura The green is more appealing and should be an homage to their dark past. Eversong Emerald. Thalassian Jade. Blue has its place given the history but shouldnt have been completely removed. The fel history is what gave them some edge and made them fit in with the horde.

@Lidorissa For the longest time I figured pvp of all modes would be the ONE you logistically couldnt do. Not pve. Assbackwards.

I never thought about this actually but so true lmao we can cross-faction PvP queue but god forbid I wanna do timewalking with 1-2 other guildies and friends.

@Lidorissa No excuse when we can xfaction pvp que

can we please just queue timewalking with whoever we want in the year of our lord 2026

This right here. A grounded tangable story with tangable stakes. Make the factions great again. As well as putting the horde back on par with the alliance. Faction based stories along with the return of the Warchief. This council should be parliament to that station.

@ccs_game @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming The only thing keeping midnight put of the gutter rn is the gameplay. The story beats are shit and unearned. Its rushed and has no weight. No grit or stakes. Classic is still popular for a reason maybe we aught to lean into that. Its millenial writing of frienship thats a gag

@syclone369 @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming That’s dated stories that won’t appeal to modern players. By modern players I mean new players, normal player base, the casual players. You need good engagement that can get reactions and interactions. Devs know what they are doing regardless of what content creators are saying

Can we just delete the Arcantina please? Like, completely rip it out and pretend it never existed. I think I’d have to give myself clinical brain damage to get behind its creative direction. What the fuck is going on in California... Is there actually something in the water?

@Sinskyn @ccs_game @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming Not really no. The convience of retail but the grounded world building of classic. Cosmic stuff is fine but not every expac. Cold faction war is BiS.

@syclone369 @ccs_game @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming It seems like what you might want out of wow is available in classic. Also, the Night elves and Orcs are still fighting over Ashenvale. They go into detail about it in “Exploring Azeroth: Kalimdor” the night elves didn’t accept all of the peace terms.

@Skoll_Shorties Count yourself lucky hes not being defanged…yet. Arcantina seems to do that to the ppl who visit.

Don't have a full issue with the Arcantina. But I do think they've got a problem where the entirety of the people there feel like the same person just a bit. Also, there's no quest with Rexxar and Chen. That's whack.

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Yes this is exactly what Ive been banging on about. No edge or grit. Peace has its place but its boring to be at peace in a fantasy game. Grounded stories with tangable tension and conflict. We arent here for cozy. We are here intriguing world building and fantasy.

@Warcraft @TheRedShirtGuy Glad to see accountability. But fr slow down. 10-12 weeks is plenty fast. Without proper QA these patches need more time in the oven. I was saddened to see that the sheathing feature not affect back weapons at all. Wether bug or oversight - a let down.

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@ccs_game @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming I dont even play classic but the storytelling and vibe back then was better. Natural conflict like nelves protecting the forest vs the orcs who need to log for wood in ashenvale. Stories like that are more palatable. Thats what i mean.

@syclone369 @IamBritneyJeann @BellularGaming Classic is gone like the era, get over it time moves on along with the definition of Warcraft