@Synd944935 sorry i think there's some misunderstanding, i think both of these instances would be indie games. i don't see where how much money it cost matters. like you're suggesting, creative independence is crucial.
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@terminallyOL In that case it stops being indie if that rich buddy tells you what to put in your game.
How about crowdfundings, then ? If a game comes from one, is it also not an indie to you ? Even if the devs make the game on their own terms but with having some budget now ?
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how is disco elysium not considered an indie game when it was self published and it was their only game? what is indie game even supposed to mean?
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@BaneTigger @Marky_X_ gotta petition geoff keighley so the game awards has a "best crowdfunded game of the year" this go around
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@terminallyOL @Marky_X_ No crowdfunding is not okay then it’s a crowdfunded game obviously
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@terminallyOL @TheoTheFurry_ Indie games are when the devs (absolutely no more than 4 people) work themselves almost to death doing 32 hour days for at LEAST six years straight. Also the entire budget has to come from payday advance/personal loans. Your game must be an underdog story (not *too* popular tho)
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@Synd944935 whenever i see budget as a barrier, it does make it feel like there has to be a level of suffering for some people to call it an indie game. if your rich buddy pays your bills and gives you as much money as you need to make whatever you want, it's not indie.
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@terminallyOL People will bitch around whenever an indie game doesn't come from two random dudes working on a single computer sporting Windows 95 in their grandma's cave.
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@GhoulDenn @AsgarZigel i get it if there's an employee cap people go off of. wikipedia says it's 50-100 employees makes a 'AA' studio, but supergiant hasn't hit that yet. i've never seen what an 'A' studio is, it all just feels like marketing terms.
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@terminallyOL @AsgarZigel yeah that really confuses me as someone who’s been following them since bastion. They’ve just been successful, so that somehow means they can’t be indie anymore
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@wolf_big67589 @TheoTheFurry_ well that's not true, i consider no man's sky an indie game
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@terminallyOL @TheoTheFurry_ None of you called no man sky indie you hypocrite
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@Mirs_____ @AsgarZigel what is a studio you would consider a single A studio? also, i know wiki isn't the best source, but they call AA studio with 50-100 employees. i don't know how to count freelancers or translators into all of that, but i'm sure hades two had quite a few of those.
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@WeaponA68090 @TheoTheFurry_ "cannot influenced by consultants" is pretty broad, can you get anyone's advice outside of the company? if i change an idea in my game because i was inspired by someone's commentary, does that break the rule?
"No money from outside sources." so no crowdfunding?
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@terminallyOL @TheoTheFurry_ They have to be financially independent. Fund themselves and publish themselves. The game cannot be influenced by consultants. No money from outside sources. A small team, max 30 people. Max budget 10 million.
Anything more than that is a AA+ studio.
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@Mirs_____ @AsgarZigel what would you consider a game studio like supergiant then?
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@AsgarZigel hades is a bizarre inclusion too, supergiant games is an independent game studio with something like forty employees. it seems like there's an arbitrary line drawn in how many people are involved and how much money it cost to make, i just want to know where.
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@Marky_X_ if self-funded is the wall, is crowdfunding okay? what if i have a wealthy friend or family member who pays my bills while i work?
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@terminallyOL The reason for the studio's downfall was due to the initial investors
It was not a self funded project by any stretch
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@TheoTheFurry_ how much of a budget does it take to turn into not an indie game? does it matter where the money comes from?
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@terminallyOL Being self published shouldn't be the only thing we look at? We need to look at the entire pie, not just the appealing parts and indie studios don't have million dollar budgets.
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@terminallyOL Fat twitter chuds when the joke they've been repeating since the start of time annoys the person it's actively mocking:
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I have never felt compelled to wojak someone's face, but holy shit, this is such a funny expression, why would you upload this willingly?
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