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@think___y

A different kind of a philosophy professor.

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think_y@think___y·
After years of writing and publishing serious stuff, I decided to to something completely different: I wrote and illustrated a children's book. Why?
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think_y@think___y·
Same here, I think I never listened to a single podcast, I prefer to read. But, I think we should not assume that human progress is linear. Before literacy, human culture was largely oral. Perhaps our progress is cyclical: we’re going back to orality again (and we’ll be back to literacy too). So perhaps you’re also from the future 😀
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Bojan Tunguz
Bojan Tunguz@tunguz·
It’s getting worse. More and more people - even in cognitively demanding fields - prefer to listen to audio or watch a video. Everyone and their dog is now starting a podcast. Someone recently asked me about a topic that’s close to my heart if I knew of any contemporary podcasters that I would recommend. I just pointed him to a few of my favorite books. I felt like I was a time traveler from the 1800s.
Steven Pinker@sapinker

Like an appreciation of progress, reading and literacy are among the things that are good but cognitively unnatural. That is, they go against our evolved nature. We didn’t evolve with print; it was a recent invention. Reading, for many of us, has become so second nature that we just assume it’s the most natural way of getting information. But what we’ve seen, especially in the last 10 years, when video has become so cheap because of the cloud computing revolution and the broadband revolution, is that a lot of people, unlike us, much prefer to listen and watch than to read. You just see this: when I go to Google and ask a basic question about how to unstick my printer or solve a problem, I get like five videos. And I just want a paragraph that would solve it. I don’t want to see Seth saying, “Hi, welcome to my show. If you like it, subscribe and give it a like.” So just help me solve the problem. But clearly there’s something unusual about me, because people are going for the video. And the massive availability of video—of TikTok, of YouTube—means that people may not be getting the practice or putting in the effort into literacy, which we have reason to believe was one of the drivers of the Flynn effect and of cognitive sophistication in general. @HumanProgress

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think_y@think___y·
@kai_newkirk AI is already democratic: the math used to build it is free, nobody’s stopping anybody from developing it however they see fit. The fact that some people don’t know how to do that doesn’t mean politicians should “guide” it on behalf of those people.
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Kai Newkirk
Kai Newkirk@kai_newkirk·
Bernie is right. We need a moratorium on new AI data centers. This revolutionary technology is the fruit of thousands of years of collective human endeavor. It must be democratically guided by the people for the good of us all, not by billionaire oligarchs for their own profit.
Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders

We are rapidly creating technology that could surpass human intelligence, with enormous risks to jobs, society and humanity itself. AI must work for all of us, not just a handful of billionaires. That’s why I’m introducing a moratorium on new AI data centers.

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think_y@think___y·
@Noahpinion Yeah, but dig deeper to uncover his normative presumptions: he criticizes the liberal elites for *pretending* to be woke, while assuming that they *should* be woke. Uncovering pretense is good sociology, but accepting wokeness is bad philosophy.
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Noah Smith 🐇🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼
Musa is the best writer on the topic of PMC Socialism
i/o@avidseries

Liberal academic @Musa_alGharbi's observations when he moved to Manhattan: "One of the first things that stood out to me is that there’s a racialized caste system here that everyone takes for granted. You have disposable servants who will clean your house, watch your kids, walk your dogs, deliver food to you... mostly minorities and immigrants and disproportionately women... And this is basically taken for granted in New York, that this is the way society operates. And yet... this is not how things are in many other parts of the country. Most other places, the person buying a pair of shoes and the person selling them are likely to be the same race — white — and the gaps between the buyer and the seller are likely to be much smaller. Even the most sexist or bigoted rich white person in many other contexts wouldn’t be able to exploit women and minorities the same way as the typical liberal professional in a city like Seattle or New York; the infrastructure simply isn’t there. It’s these progressive bastions associated with the knowledge economy that have these well-oiled machines for casually exploiting the vulnerable, desperate and disadvantaged. And it’s largely Democratic-voting professionals who take advantage of them. A few months after I arrived at Columbia, Trump won. I expected this to happen, but for most people, that was not the expectation. So here at Columbia, the day after Trump won, a lot of the students claimed to be so traumatized that they couldn’t do tests or homework. They needed time off. Now there are two things striking about that to me. First, these are students at an Ivy League school, overwhelmingly people from wealthy backgrounds — and even if they don’t come from wealth, they’re likely to be well-positioned... [but these] students seemed to view themselves as somehow uniquely vulnerable to Trump and his regime, as being especially threatened or victimized. And so they demanded all of these accommodations for themselves. Meanwhile, there was this whole other constellation of people [mostly minorities and immigrants] around them who seemed to be literally invisible to them. The people doing all the work on the campus... these ignored laborers — the people with the most at stake in this election — [were not] saying they needed time off because they were too traumatized. They showed up to work the next day and did their jobs. They weren’t making a scene, sobbing as they scrubbed rich kids’ mess out of the toilets. The juxtaposition was sobering... When I left campus, walking around the Upper West Side, or other affluent parts of Manhattan, similar scenes were playing out. Nor was New York City unique in this regard. Other knowledge economy hubs had similar scenes playing out. And the same drama that was playing out in Columbia was unfolding at colleges and universities across the country. This is precisely what I found so troubling, so difficult to shake off: It wasn’t about my own school. It was about this broader disjuncture between knowledge-economy elites, their narratives about the world, and the realities on the ground."

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Alex Colston
Alex Colston@enoughformethx·
Abysmally bad time to care about the fate of critical education, writing, reading, and editing. Sometimes feels like that’s all over and done with in this country.
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think_y@think___y·
@G_S_Bhogal The process is actually what teaches what all schools should: critical thinking. No AI will be able to replace that: youtu.be/q4ha5VYaw4w
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Gurwinder@G_S_Bhogal·
“The highest reward for a man's toil is not what he gets for it but what he becomes by it.” —John Ruskin
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think_y@think___y·
Everyone likes talking about how important ‘critical thinking’ is, especially in the age of AI. But, what is it, exactly? Check this out: youtu.be/q4ha5VYaw4w
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think_y@think___y·
@johnloeber This is a very interesting observation. I had neither teachers nor professors that were like that (tough luck, I guess), but it’s definitely true that academia filters for a career-driven-checkbox-filling characters. I say that as an academic myself 🤷‍♂️
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John Loeber 🎢
John Loeber 🎢@johnloeber·
Teachers vs Professors This has been on my mind since I first encountered it almost 15 years ago. When I was in high school, I had a few teachers in the humanities/social sciences who were really, really good: deep, serious thinkers, with lots of interesting views synthesized over decades of globetrotting experiences. As teachers, even at a nice private school, they were not real “winners” in the sense of climbing a prestigious career ladder, and neither did they publish academic papers. You could call them very advanced amateurs, and as dabblers they got to toy with lots of interesting ideas, kind of randomly assembled, without outside judgment. When I got to the University of Chicago, known for its life of the mind in the humanities, I didn't really find anybody who seemed to be as deep or as interesting a thinker as these teachers I encountered in high school. I always wondered why. Partially, it's because I got lucky with my teachers. They were the best we had. Maybe I didn't get so lucky with my professors. But today I may have figured it out: I think the actual reason is that my professors at UChicago were, in a sense, winners on an academic career ladder. It’s an extremely competitive environment, and they had somehow made it to the top. By definition, this is a tremendously powerful filter. And I think this had actually filtered against a whole group of people whom I consider interesting. This has become especially clear over the last few years, as a lot of traditional academia has been losing prestige rapidly: people are trusting the kind of professorial expert class less and less and less. It turned out that professors of ethics and sociology are just as unethical and susceptible to groupthink as the general public. And the general conformity of ideology and thought in academia is now well-known. These professional humanities academics may publish papers that are respected or even highly esteemed within their own niche communities, but this particular value system has long since been removed from what I consider interesting, or, in many cases, even related to the pursuit of truth. Reflecting on it, the heart of the matter is that those teachers in high school were unconstrained by convention and had been allowed to fully lean into their interests — kind of like the platonic dream of academia — whereas the professors I encountered in university, even when very successful, had been conformed by the academia-industry pressure cooker and their work sanitized, professionalized, and ultimately made uninteresting under the constraints.
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think_y@think___y·
@Alex_TheAnalyst True, but we also have a great opportunity to learn critical thinking through learning more about AI because critical thinking and computation are close cousins. Like this: youtu.be/1ExCqlMx1AE
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Alex Freberg
Alex Freberg@Alex_TheAnalyst·
I'm going to call this right now. We are going to have a large population with absolutely no critical thinking skills if they blindly trust AI for everything. We have all already seen it. They don't validate outputs. They don't really understand anything. They just ask questions, it looks good, and they go with it. There are going to be huge issues in every company as this continues over the years. The amount of technical debt and knowledge gaps are going to be insane. So much opportunity if you actually know what you're doing.
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Enzo Rossi
Enzo Rossi@enzoreds·
Please think about the opportunity cost of that PhD. Yes, you’ll have a few years to think and read. But you’ll also be socialised into a cult that will likely expel you after you’ve given it your best years. Or it will keep you on as a marginal servant of sorts. I just got lucky
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think_y@think___y·
@ProfHall1955 Having the same name (translated) doesn’t imply that the concept is the same. Muting opposing views: very mature. Cheers.
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Steve Hall
Steve Hall@ProfHall1955·
@think___y Heraclitus was 'searching in himself' circa 500 BC. Descartes was just a publicist. You don't know your onions. Mute
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Steve Hall
Steve Hall@ProfHall1955·
Don't take it from me that the top-tier commercial tech nerds are idiots savants. Bachelor-level maths with the political understanding and general wisdom of the average 14-year-old. Commercial culture elevates idiots to positions of influence and power. Scary times.
David Senra@davidsenra

Great men of history had little to no introspection. The personality that builds empires is not the same personality that sits around quietly questioning itself. @pmarca and I discuss what we both noticed but no one talks about: David: You don't have any levels of introspection? Marc: Yes, zero. As little as possible. David: Why? Marc: Move forward. Go! I found people who dwell in the past get stuck in the past. It's a real problem and it's a problem at work and it's a problem at home. David: So I've read 400 biographies of history’s greatest entrepreneurs and someone asked me what the most surprising thing I’ve learned from this was [and I answered] they have little or zero introspection. Sam Walton didn't wake up thinking about his internal self. He just woke up and was like: I like building Walmart. I'm going to keep building Walmart. I'm going to make more Walmarts. And he just kept doing it over and over again. Marc: If you go back 400 years ago it never would've occurred to anybody to be introspective. All of the modern conceptions around introspection and therapy, and all the things that kind of result from that are, a kind of a manufacture of the 1910s, 1920s. Great men of history didn't sit around doing this stuff. The individual runs and does all these things and builds things and builds empires and builds companies and builds technology. And then this kind of this kind of guilt based whammy kind of showed up from Europe. A lot of it from Vienna in 1910, 1920s, Freud and all that entire movement. And kind of turned all that inward and basically said, okay, now we need to basically second guess the individual. We need to criticize the individual. The individual needs to self criticize. The individual needs to feel guilt, needs to look backwards, needs to dwell in the past. It never resonated with me.

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think_y@think___y·
@BALUCIAGA Ok, so how many artists are you sending money to every month so they can lock themselves in a room and produce great art? If you desire that, make it happen.
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🪞@BALUCIAGA·
we don’t have a ‘michelangelo’ of this generation bc capitalism doesn’t let people disappear and lock themselves in a room for twenty years to create something beautiful. that level of greatness comes from isolation, time and obsession and none of that is being protected anymore.
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think_y@think___y·
@PaulAnleitner Sounds a lot like ice cream sales and shark attacks, also suspiciously related 🤷‍♂️
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Paul Anleitner@PaulAnleitner·
When Sleeping Beauty came out in 1959, less than 4% of Americans were “non-religious.” Now it is over 25% & something of this level of beauty seems impossible to be made today. When you realize these two things are related, it changes everything.
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Doug Lemov
Doug Lemov@Doug_Lemov·
Appears to be under the impression that public high schools in America teach 16th century English literature. Or literature at all. (One reason they don’t is that for every thing people “should know” there’s some guy saying schools gotta start doing it.) Schools should make kids read books. They should teach science math history economics languages art and music really well (they don’t currently). That’s plenty. Every parent in America should be teaching how credit cards work.
Miles Commodore@miles_commodore

Every public high school in America should be teaching how credit cards work, how to get a mortgage, and what mutual funds are and how they function. 16th century English literature is great, but how about equipping our children with what they need in the REAL world.

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think_y@think___y·
A sad truth is that many people in charge of teaching critical thinking have no idea what critical thinking is.
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Jake 🇺🇸
Jake 🇺🇸@omni_american·
Yeah, that's why I said "most of the time." There's genuine critical thinking, which involves training in logic, etc., and there are even good textbooks on the topic, but then there's what's casually and vulgarly called critical thinking in the academy, and it's nothing but learning to parrot some leftist talking points.
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Jake 🇺🇸@omni_american·
Anything with the word "critical" in front of it—critical theory, critical theories of sexuality, critical race theory, critical thinking (in most cases)—is precisely the opposite of critical. It's an unquestionable ideology that you either accept mindlessly or face ostracism.
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think_y@think___y·
@dwaldenwrites Tell me you don’t live in NYC without telling me 🤣
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Dan Walden@dwaldenwrites·
Most children in New York City ride the subway and bus to school every day. It is extremely safe; indeed, New Yorkers are extremely protective of children on public transit and will usually intervene very quickly if an adult is harassing them.
CSPAN@cspan

.@SecDuffy: "I'm a Republican, and I love transit…You should be able to have your 14-year-old daughter get on a metro train in New York City at 7 o'clock at night and feel safe. And there's no way in hell I would ever put my daughter on the MTA in New York."

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