Tim Prince
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@Jeff_Davis1808 If the southern states never left the union as Lincoln said then why did they have to be readmitted to be represented?
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"In 1861 these States thought they could not remain safely in the Union without new guarantees, and now, when they agree to resume their former practical relations in the Union, under the Constitution, the other States turn upon them and say they cannot permit them to do so safely to their interests without new constitutional guarantees. The southern States would thus present themselves as willing for immediate union, under the Constitution, while it would be the northern States opposed to it. The former disunionists would thereby become the unionists, and the former unionists the practical disunionists."
-Stephens 4/4/1866 (Congressional Testimony)

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James Fishback vows to bring back the Confederate flag in Florida if elected governor.
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@treeline Thats a ridiculous argument , he’s cluttering nothing minorities on either side had no power and gave prime examples you just didnt like them. His point stands everything the founding fathers touted in their revolution was denied the south in theirs.
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@GeorgeDAndrews2 Right. It's best not to acknowledge my point regarding South Carolina and how the majority of people were enslaved there when they were fighting for "states rights". Clutter things up and pretend I'm arguing some point I'm not, you will fool some people that way, but not too many
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Just a reminder to the Yankees out there who celebrate the 4th of July and the Declaration of Independence, but are hypocrites when it comes to Southern states' secession.
The quote from the document is what philosophically allows state secession.
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

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@waffleHouse117 @lio_98_ @TheGeorgiaWhig Yes your correct northeners broke their oath when they disregarded the 10th amendment and the insurrection act, the south followed it.
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@lio_98_ @TheGeorgiaWhig The northerners were the traitors. They started it.
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Cannot be stressed enough: once upon a time, that flag was everywhere, and it wasn't an issue.
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The first Chuck E. Cheese at 370 S. Winchester Boulevard, San Jose, California.
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@DaddyMachiave1 @ScottMGreer Dont listen to that, they allowed a popular vote in Fairfax county Virginia on keeping the confederate monuments , it was 75% for keeping them, no one else has tried because they know the outcome and it wont be close.
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@ScottMGreer Erm, can you please stop saying the south isn't exactly the same as when Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis were around? It makes me sad.
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New Chronicles column:
Democrats want to pretend the Confederacy is rising from the grave in the battle over redistricting.
But it's a silly notion. In contrast to what the South's admirers and detractors imagine, the region is far removed from the CSA. It's new identity owes more to college football than to the Stars and Bars chroniclesmagazine.org/web/the-false-…
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@LewisEverett3 @Jeff_Davis1808 Maybe, maybe not, he was disabled so theres that but disparaging a southern white male is usually allowed and tolerated with a hint of a chuckle
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@Jeff_Davis1808 If this had happened today, Preston Brooks could have held off on the beating and let today's mainstream handle it
They would have ruined Sumner's career because of all the mean words
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Sumner had been thundering about the “evils of slavery” for years without anyone laying a finger on him. What actually lit the fuse was Sumner’s deliberate, vicious personal attack on the absent Senator Butler of SC, who was home recovering from a debilitating stroke that left him with a severe speech impediment. While Butler lay partially paralyzed and struggling to speak, Sumner mocked him by pairing him with Douglas as “Don Quixote and Sancho Panza”—the delusional knight and his bumbling, donkey-riding squire—sallying forth in service to “the harlot, Slavery.” He then cruelly ridiculed Butler’s actual impaired faculties, sneering that he spoke “with incoherent phrases,” “discharg[ing] the loose expectoration of his speech,” and that “He cannot open his mouth, but out there flies a blunder.” That wasn’t principled debate; that was calculated, schoolyard cruelty aimed at a sick man whose cousin was sitting a few feet away.
US Capitol Historical Society@CapitolHistory
#OTD in #history, 1856, Charles Sumner was caned half-to-death on the Senate floor. The heinous act was retaliation for his inflammatory speech about the evils of slavery. Two years before Lincoln warned of a “House Divided,” many already wondered how long that house would stand.
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@MMmcgibbins @cmclymer @Clint_Davey1 I liked his rational why, nothing political or moral just “ these are my people”
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@cmclymer @Clint_Davey1 He also said if he were alive during the civil war he would have absolutely fought for the confederacy btw and fwiw
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The Ken Burns Civil War documentary is so good because you'll have very serious academic history interspersed with Shelby Foote (who sounds just like Foghorn Leghorn) saying something like "then we gave them Yankees a whuppin' "
Milk Vessel Pilot@trueliberal1848
this reminds me of the end of Ken Burn's Civil War documentary where he has this black "historian" waffle and ramble for 5 minutes about the legacy of the war and slavery, then it cuts to Shelby Foote reading a poignant letter from a Confederate veteran reminiscing about the war
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@AndyHal15523851 @cmclymer @Clint_Davey1 I believe he did too, but it made for good Tv and a memorable quote.
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@cmclymer @Clint_Davey1 Foote’s most famous quote in the entire miniseries is telling the anecdote about the Confederate POW, who was asked by his captor why they were fighting. The Confederate supposedly replied, “because you’re down here.“
I 100% believe he fabricated that quote.
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@ConfederateMyth @1armsteve @tee_kae63561 @HistoryBoutique It literally was an amendment enshrining slavery by name to the constitution, it is almost impossible to rescend an amendment when passed . The south still wanted out.
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@tprince333 @1armsteve @tee_kae63561 @HistoryBoutique Again, it passed congress, with the bare minimum needed for the 2/3 to pass. The Corwin Amendment did almost nothing to protect slavery, which is what the south were interested in.
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@1armsteve @HistoryBoutique How the Linoln myths perpetuate i will never know.
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@HistoryBoutique Lincoln freed the slaves hahahahahaah who still buys that myth?
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@ConfederateMyth @1armsteve @tee_kae63561 @HistoryBoutique Thats not true in the least, the votes were there eaily and Lincoln was on record supporting it, the southern states were seemingly interested in something else besides slavery.
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@1armsteve @tee_kae63561 @HistoryBoutique The Corwin Amendment was never going to be ratified and did almost nothing to protect slavery. Delaware is a southern state and ended slavery the same time as every other state that still had slaves. Dec 1865.
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@MarioNawfal Or maybe, somehow instinctively they know getting on the bad side of himans isn’t a good idea.
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@jjfThompson Also how can the federal goverment rule on itself, it itself is a conflict of interest.
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@jjfThompson The fact that three states had it specifically written into their constitutional acceptance agreements that the federal govt accepted without objection that they could secede pretty much gauranteed the right.
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In the court case Texas vs. White (1869), in deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null".
I challenge anyone to provide the constitutional evidence that supports this holding. Keep in mind — the preamble of the U. S. Constitution is not law.

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@AdenOrdinii @RajaGili @WarMonitor3 The strait is not closed, any ship can venture through at anytime that the US Allows, it doesnt mean that iran cant use drones to harrass traffic. Outside of this militarily they have ceased to exist as a functioning unit.
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@ZZZocrates @JoeHarleyrider Im with you my loyalty is to my local and state govt. if it aligns with the federal goverment its a bonus.
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@JoeHarleyrider That is fair and I appreciate the respectful discourse.
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@Ropimun @wil_da_beast630 Yes it was their homes , i know its aginst popular culture, but most plantaions didnt have a slave hanging from every tree and drowning babies for sport.
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@JusticeTrudeau @wil_da_beast630 While your at it might want to read about the devils punch bowl
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@JusticeTrudeau @wil_da_beast630 The part about the million ex slaves dying is from Jim Downs “ sick from freedom, on the bridge incident, easy to find ebeneezer creek incident ( not the only one) , the abuse of slaves by the union army is in countless slave narratives easily googled.
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