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Exploring Southeast Asia’s Digital Economy | High Conviction Bets | Long $SE • $GRAB

Singapore Katılım Ekim 2018
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@GabGrowth Agree, but i’m not a big fan of management cashing out on their shares. Don’t know how many Form 144 notifications i’ve received in the past months.
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Fully agree with everything Amit said here on $GRAB. So far, this has been an unsuccessful investment simply because the stock is down/sideways. However, the gap between the stock and the business has never been wider. Operationally, Grab has continued to execute well. GMV has continued to grow >20%, take rates have climbed, incentive spend has been disciplined, and operating leverage is just beginning. What has affected them are all external shocks. Fuel cost spikes, the Indonesian commission cap slashing driver-side economics from 20% to 8%, and outflows to AI-related equities. The clearest proof is to look at $SE $MELI $NU $INTR stock prices in the past year. An entire cohort of high-quality EM platforms have been repriced together. Eventually, quality rises to the top. Unlike the majority of FinTwit, my investment horizon is far longer than a week, a month or a year.
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$GRAB This will be a long post and dive into many things including Grab's stock performance, some updated thoughts on my Grab thesis after having visited Southeast Asia last month, and new models for valuation. Let's get into it. First off, it's obvious that the stock has not performed in the way that most would like since I first initiated coverage, which was at $4.50. The stock is currently at $3.57, so it is down 20% in the 1.5 years since I laid out my thesis. I think there are many reasons for this but the common theme behind these reasons are less about the fundamentals and more about the macro. It sucks to say that because it would imply that larger forces have played a role outside of the business's execution, but I do think that has happened and unfortunately has made the investment, so far, unsuccessful. Two major macro disruptions hurt grab: the price of oil skyrocketing and the violent shift to AI stocks. On the price of oil, the company actually has weathered the storm very nicely if you look at their latest earnings, but the sentiment around companies in a region that is prone to oil price risk has been very bad. On AI, this is something that I quite frankly just didn't see coming. $UBER is an exceptional business and in my opinion undervalued, but the overhang of robotaxis has led the stock to not do much. The intensity of the AI buildout that began in early 2025 meant that capital was rotating and Grab wouldn't play a role in that infra cap-ex trade which meant it would be prone to be stuck. I can't even blame the market here, why invest in a company that is growing 25% when you can pick memory names or neoclouds growing 500%? Having said that, the fundamentals of the business have only gotten better. I know that in this market environment, if you can't get 20% ROI in a week then your stock is failure, but if we are being a bit more realistic...things take time. HOOD took time. PLTR took time. Not every name explodes because of a datacenter contract and I believe that has given some people unrealistic expectations. Regardless, an opportunity cost is an opportunity cost and if the stock price is the basis for judgement, then the investment has not fully played out yet. Thankfully, my time horizon is greater than 1.5 years. I did have calls on GRAB in addition to shares for Jan 2027 and if there is not a meaningful change over the coming months, those calls will be worth nothing. That is the game -- if you take a risk with options, you have to be ready for the downside. Second, my experience in Southeast Asia. I visited Singapore and basically used GRAB every single day, multiple times a day. My initial thesis was based on a simple idea: compounding earnings growth while consolidating market share within the region. Being able to build the superapp that can grow users would allow upsells and as margins expand, so would operating leverage, which would elevate the company's value. Nothing in my personal experience changed that thesis and if anything, actually witnessing how intense the product was in the region strengthened my conviction. In order to deal with competition in the region, Grab either has to expand or offer better deals to out compete. With 50M+ MAU, I believe they have still under penetrated the region and have a significant runway of growth to go in order to achieve these goals. Ultimately, many of the competitors in the region are burning cash and can't produce a profit. Eventually, I believe that marketshare continues to consolidate and the one left standing should be able to benefit the most. Third, valuation. So, I have updated my models and assumptions based on Q1 numbers. I believe the conservative, fair intrinsic value for the name is at $7.50 which is why I continue to own shares. Q1 2026: Revenue guidance: $4.04-4.10B (+20-22%) Adjusted EBITDA guidance: $700-720M (+40%+) Q1 revenue: $955M (+24% YoY) Q1 Adjusted EBITDA: $154M (+46% YoY) Loan book: $1.44B (+130% YoY) Financial Services approaching EBITDA breakeven Ongoing $400M accelerated share repurchase Net cash balance remains one of the strongest in internet/platform companies For 2027, I would use deliberately conservative assumptions across all three scenarios. In the bear case, Grab grows revenue by 15% to approximately $4.7 billion and reaches a 19% adjusted EBITDA margin, producing roughly $900 million of adjusted EBITDA. In the base case, revenue grows by 18% to about $4.85 billion, while the adjusted EBITDA margin expands to 22%, resulting in approximately $1.07 billion of adjusted EBITDA. In the bull case, revenue grows by 22% to around $5.0 billion and the adjusted EBITDA margin reaches 25%, generating about $1.25 billion of adjusted EBITDA. These projections assume only moderate operating leverage, even though Grab has recently been expanding profitability faster than revenue. For valuation, I would apply an 18x adjusted EBITDA multiple in the bear case, a 24x multiple in the base case, and a 28x multiple in the bull case. Grab should trade at some discount to larger global platforms because of its geographic concentration in Southeast Asia and the risks associated with emerging markets. However, that discount is partly offset by Grab’s leading regional position, improving margins, financial-services growth, strong balance sheet, advertising opportunity, and continued share repurchases. In the bear case, applying an 18x multiple to $900 million of adjusted EBITDA produces an enterprise value of approximately $16.2 billion. After adding roughly $5 billion of net cash, Grab’s equity value would be about $21.2 billion. Using approximately 4.05 billion diluted shares outstanding, that implies a value of roughly $5.25 per share, with a reasonable bear-case range of approximately $5.25 to $5.75. In the base case, applying a 24x multiple to approximately $1.07 billion of adjusted EBITDA produces an enterprise value of about $25.7 billion. Adding roughly $5 billion of net cash results in an equity value of approximately $30.7 billion. Based on approximately 4.05 billion diluted shares, the implied value is around $7.55 per share. That supports a base-case valuation range of approximately $7.50 to $8.25 per share. In the bull case, applying a 28x multiple to $1.25 billion of adjusted EBITDA results in an enterprise value of approximately $35 billion. After adding roughly $5 billion of net cash, Grab’s equity value would reach about $40 billion. Dividing that by approximately 4.05 billion diluted shares produces an implied value of roughly $9.90 per share, supporting a bull-case range of approximately $9.75 to $11.00. My preferred valuation framework therefore produces a bear case of $5.25 to $5.75 per share, a base case of $7.50 to $8.25 per share, and a bull case of $9.75 to $11.00 per share. The base case does not require aggressive assumptions. It only assumes that Grab continues growing at a healthy but moderating rate, improves margins as the business scales, and receives a valuation multiple that remains below many higher-growth global technology and marketplace companies. A valuation of $8.50 per share is also defensible without relying on an extreme bull case. One path would be for Grab to generate roughly $5 billion of revenue and achieve an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23% to 24%, producing approximately $1.15 billion of adjusted EBITDA. At a 24x multiple, that would imply an enterprise value of roughly $27.6 billion. Adding approximately $5 billion of net cash would produce an equity value of around $32.6 billion, or approximately $8.05 per share before factoring in additional share repurchases or stronger cash generation. A slightly higher EBITDA result, a modestly higher multiple, or a lower diluted share count could push the valuation into the $8.50 range. Another path to $8.50 would be a moderate valuation rerating. If Grab generates approximately $1.1 billion of adjusted EBITDA and trades at 26x adjusted EBITDA rather than 24x, its enterprise value would be approximately $28.6 billion. After adding roughly $5 billion of net cash, the equity value would be about $33.6 billion, which translates to approximately $8.30 per share using 4.05 billion diluted shares. Additional buybacks, higher net cash, or slightly stronger earnings could bring the implied value closer to $8.50 to $9.00 per share. The market may also be underestimating Grab because it is still often viewed primarily as a ride-hailing and food-delivery company. In reality, Grab is developing several potential profit engines. Mobility can continue generating strong margins and cash flow, delivery benefits from greater scale and operational efficiency, financial services could become a meaningful earnings contributor as the loan book grows, and advertising remains relatively early in its development. At the same time, artificial intelligence and automation may improve driver utilization, merchant performance, customer targeting, and corporate efficiency. In all of these scenarios, I am also not anticipating revenue growth of 30% or above. This is the wild card, given the company is expanding to Taiwan and has a host of new initiatives that they have been getting into with M&A, if they can reaccelerate to 30%+, it changes all assumptions and could further lead to a rerating. Overall, I would view approximately $7.50 as a conservative base-case intrinsic value if Grab simply executes on its current trajectory. A value closer to $8.50 is reasonable if the company delivers modest upside to current expectations, continues expanding margins, repurchases shares, and receives even a small valuation rerating from the market. So, those are my updated thoughts. Some have asked why I don't talk about the name everyday, it's simple: there isn't much to discuss. The name is stuck based on the market's lack of interest which is why I think the discount has become so intense. I continue to hold and until I feel the thesis changes dramatically, if it doesn't, then I will continue to engage in the most boring part of investing: being patient and trusting a thesis can play out.

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@kzkzkkkkkk @GabGrowth My guess is to cross-share knowledge for its FinTech arm, specifically GX & GXS Bank. GXS Bank recently rolled out a suite of investment products for its Singapore users.
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@GabGrowth Still don’t understand why they did this acquisition
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Gab@GabGrowth·
JUST IN: $GRAB has completed the acquisition of Stash Financial for $425M. Stash is expected to generate $60M annually in Adj. EBITDA by 2028. Grab's Fin Services segment should be break-even by 2H 2026.
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@victor_zhng @markgurman They don’t have to see it, they can already visualise it. Companies do scenario analysis before hiking prices.
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Victor@victor_zhng·
@markgurman I am betting 100 bucks the price will not go back. Once the CFO and investors see the profit, they will not un-see it.
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The most wild take I’ve seen on the Apple price increases is that Apple is going to roll back to old pricing once the memory situation is resolved. Not in a million years. Maybe prices of certain configuration upgrades but this is almost certainly the new normal.
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Cars will always be used by professionals, businesses, HNWIs, and government officials. The government simply can’t afford to have roads clogged with cars under an open car policy. Singapore deliberately has a direct highway from the airport to the CBD, allowing professionals to reach urgent meetings within 25 minutes.
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Jinnbeam@Jinnbeams·
@chickengenius Don't see a problem in Hong Kong. The demand should always balance itself when people decide whether it's worthwhile to stay in a traffic jam or take public transport. I wonder why the government should be concerned about our personal choices?
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Chicken Genius@chickengenius·
Hi rest of the world. In Singapore, we hate money. This picture is the cost of a car certificate that expires in 10 years. ON TOP OF: 9% GST $350 registration fee 320% of the Open Market Value 20% Excise Duty on the Open Market Value Money means nothing. We hate money.
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@GabGrowth A big jump in loan portfolio can be a double-edged sword @DrewCohenMoney mentioned this in his $SE analysis video. Let’s hope $GRAB is minimising bad loans
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Gab@GabGrowth·
$GRAB GFin GrabFin grew revenues 43% YoY and the gross loan portfolio by 130% YoY (!) Segment Adj. EBITDA Margin is now just -15.7%, a huge improvement from -41.1% last year. Reminder: Management expects breakeven by H2 2026
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$GRAB JUST REPORTED EARNINGS Q1 Earnings: Rev: $955M (✅BEAT) EPS: $0.04 (✅BEAT) MTUs: 51.6M (+16% YoY) Loan Portfolio: $1.44B (+130% YoY) Outlook for 2026 unchanged
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@GabGrowth Commission cap can always be offset by reduced incentives. Prabowo doesn’t understand that collecting commission plays a key role in distributing incentives for both the consumer & driver as a means to continue using Grab/Gojek’s services
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$GRAB reports Q1 2026 earnings AH today Here's what I'm watching: 1. Indonesia's 20%->8% commission cap reduction On Friday, it was announced that Indonesia had signed the 8% commission cap on ride-hailing apps, with mandatory accident and health insurance on top. Prabowo explicitly framed this as protecting drivers being "squeezed by the global energy crisis", meaning the oil shock and the regulatory action are the same story. This will be the first we're hearing from management on this. If management quantifies the impact and was clearly aware of it, it would be a good sign, for instance "we've been engaging with the government on this and have projected a fixed % hit from this, but can make up for it in other segments". 2. Oil Prices Fuel costs are up massively in the past few months and even before the cap, driver supply was tightening. More colour here on how the costs will be distributed (subsidies by govt etc) would be very helpful. 3. Guidance Reiteration Management guided for $4.04-4.10B revenue and $700-720M adj. EBITDA for FY2026. In view of recent events, it would be good to see management reiterate guidance. 4. Buyback Status Grab announced a $500M buyback program in Feb this year before authorising an accelerated $400M share repurchase program ($250M accelerated share repurchase and $150M contingent forward purchase) as part of the original plan. Management will likely give updates on the status. 5. GFin Trajectory Management guided for H2 2026 breakeven for GFin. Loan book growth has been the bright spot, but consumer credit during a stagflationary shock is double-edged. I would watch the trends in loan book growth and management commentary on breakeven. 6. FoodPanda Taiwan Update The FP Taiwan deal was announced in March and apart from a statement, we haven't heard from management on this. I would look out for a regulatory status update, signal that Uber is in the know (does Dara remain on Grab's board?) Also, does Grab have mobility/fin services ambitions in Taiwan? Personally, I would prefer they avoid mobility.
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@Gr8unionsJohn Definitely. Especially amongst young families.
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John@Gr8unionsJohn·
@trailsad Will many people use this service?
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$GRAB Cross-border Ride-hailing service between Singapore and Johor, Malaysia, officially launches today. I tried it out on the app today and found the service easy to access. This feature is still in beta, and Grab is offering 20% off on rides to encourage users to try it out.
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@GabGrowth $GRAB has to surprise us with >20% revenue growth, else we are going nowhere
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Gab@GabGrowth·
$GRAB reports earnings in 12 hours! Earnings Estimates are as follows: Revenue: $920.24M (+19% YoY) Adjusted EBITDA: $141.87M (+34% YoY) EPS: $0.02 (+100% YoY)
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@GabGrowth All eyes on earnings today 👀
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Gab@GabGrowth·
$GRAB $UBER The blueprint is right there...
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JUST IN: Indonesia to cut ride-hailing companies’ maximum commission taken from drivers to 8% $GRAB $GOTO
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Singapore’s Land Transport Authority has just awarded the first Cross-border Ride-hail Service Operator Licence (CRSOL) to $GRAB From 4 May, Grab users can conveniently book rides anywhere in Singapore and be dropped off in Johor, Malaysia. Alternatively, they can take a Singapore-registered GrabTaxi back to Singapore. The service will use Grab’s newly launched GrabTaxi vehicles, which currently include the BYD e6, Hyundai Kona Hybrid, Toyota Prius, and the Toyota Corolla Altis Hybrid. Picture credits to @LTAsg
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@GabGrowth Gimme a free TSLA share or smthg 😂
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Gab@GabGrowth·
$HOOD is finally launching in Singapore! This was promised in 2025 so slightly behind schedule, but better late than never. Brokerage space is quite crowded in Singapore but I think $HOOD should still do quite well.
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@GabGrowth Big missed opportunity for Ninja Van
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Gab@GabGrowth·
$SE TikTok Shop’s main logistics partner, J&T Express saw an acceleration in Q1 2026 growth. There are 2 ways to view this. 1, the overall pie continues to grow very fast. 2, TikTok Shop’s growth isn’t stopping, and is likely taking share from Shopee. In my view, both are true.
Zack Zhu@the_zack_zhu

It's kind of scary that J&T Express grow +79.9% in parcel volume in Southeast Asia in 2026Q1, up from 73.6% in 25Q4. This means that TikTok Shop in Southeast Asia is still growing in incredible speed. Not so good news for $SE

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Apologies for the late response I’ve been a Shopee user for more than 6+ years already so most of the time, I don’t bother to check around other sites 😂 For me, it’s more of comparing prices in retail stores vs choosing to buy on Shopee And I think the promos has been bumping up actually, may be the reason why Shopee guided no increase in FY26 adj. EBITDA
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Drew Cohen@DrewCohenMoney·
@trailsad One more... Do you still price check before buying on Shopee? Have you noticed fewer promotions?
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Drew Cohen@DrewCohenMoney·
Followers in South East Asian, Brazil, and Taiwan I have a request What is your prefered ecommerce platform? Do you use $SE, and if so, is it the only platform you use? Can you share a bit about your ecommerce and physical shopping habits?
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The items you can find on TT Shop varies to a large extent, you have people who setup accounts and work as a middle man, dropshipping almost about anything from China, but you also have MSME who leverage TT and TT Shop to cross-sell their products. And yes, Shopee can deliver to your doorstep. It’s actually one of the perks you get as a ShopeeVIP member. Happy to help if you need anymore information!
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Drew Cohen@DrewCohenMoney·
@trailsad Thank you for sharing! When you did use TT, did you find the goods to be of lower quality? Does Shopee deliver to your door?
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@SherwinMah @EnvestingEarly @TrendSpider 2nd biggest market in terms of GMV actually. Purchasing power of Singaporeans are much higher than other SEA countries. Investing in $GRAB is basically betting on them to grow faster than $UBER
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@EnvestingEarly @TrendSpider lol investing in grab is barely investing in Sg. It’s probably their smallest market their exposed to regionally my friend .
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TrendSpider@TrendSpider·
$GRAB and go
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