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champagne papineau

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@trallala93

rather get caught with it than without it

Katılım Şubat 2012
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@w01fe Hi Jason, why should workers trust they won’t be culled once all economically useful work can be done by machines?
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Jason Wolfe
Jason Wolfe@w01fe·
I like Chris, but I really disagree with the positions presented in this article. I believe our job in the AI industry isn't just to explain why AI will be good for people. I believe our job should be to earn trust by making the benefits real, being honest about risks and uncertainty, sharing what we learn, measuring real-world impacts, and supporting public oversight and resilience. And while I of course agree that the recent violence is terrible, unjustified, and may have been encouraged by a small number of bad actors, I think it’s bad for the public discourse to lump all AI critics together as “doomers” and suggest that it’s inappropriate for them to express their concerns.
The San Francisco Standard@sfstandard

OpenAI’s global policy chief, Chris Lehane, thinks the discussion around AI has gotten out of hand. "When you put some of those thoughts and ideas out there, they do have consequences.” 📝: @ceodonovan sfstandard.com/2026/04/15/ope…

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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@Noahpinion Finding “Meaning” is not going to be the problem for people deemed useless eaters by AI barons. They will be more concerned about being turned into paste
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Senior PowerPoint Engineer
@moultano is he trying to say "next token prediction and other such mechanisms don't therefore imply AI can't be conscious" or something
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Kyle Kringle@SkinnyTuna·
just watched the first episode of season 4 of community. did they poison ALL of the writers?
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spor
spor@sporadica·
jobs left after the singularity:
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onion person@CantEverDie·
i know what my answer here is if this is the reality that’s coming for us, but capitalists probably won’t be happy about it
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onion person@CantEverDie·
the primary reason no one trusts the pro-ai stance of “tech always replaces jobs, move on to the next job” is because ai is promising to replace jobs people who get laid off typically turn to, for example, uber driving. there’s zero welfare state in the US. what’s there to do?
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@tolstoybb The only solace is that these tech billionaires will eventually turn on each other too even after we're all wiped out
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@hecubian_devil I think the Zitron approach is actually better. If you're wrong and AGI happens, we're all annihilated anyways. If you're right and it is a bubble, you emerge as a prophet.
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Cassie Pritchard
Cassie Pritchard@hecubian_devil·
I’d like to highlight this for other leftists: if I’m wrong about AI—the bubble pops and LLMs disappear forever, it was all a charade—I look stupid. That’s the whole cost. If you’re wrong, the cost is you didn’t prepare and organize for an existential threat to liberation!
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@xriskology I believe this, but what stops them from turning on each other as well? Its going to be literally winner takes all and annihilation for the rest
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
I think you have to be a complete fool to think that the power-hungry sociopaths who’d control AGI would ever allow the riches to be spread to the people. Obviously, they will hoard it all for themselves. We will become economically obsolete, and they will dispose of us. Duh.
Lennart Heim@ohlennart

it's funny that we might be closer than ever to all the left's marxist dreams: post-scarcity, end of wage labor, etc. but many of them still won't take AGI seriously. the thing that could actually deliver it. instead it's denial and cope.

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Tenobrus@tenobrus·
what are the best writings (books, blog posts, essays, anything) that take the idea of mass permanent AGI-induced unemployment seriously and propose real plausible near-term policies and transition plans? is there anything??
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Tenobrus@tenobrus·
@xwanyex do u have any thoughts from the conservatives perspective on good alternatives to UBI, in the inconvenient world where AGI genuinely makes 90%+ of current white collar workers totally unemployable?
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wanye@xwanyex·
One way to think about this: does the average UBI supporter believe that today's wards of the state -- those on SSDI, in public housing, on food stamps -- are well treated, enjoy high status, are valued by society, etc?
Tenobrus@tenobrus

@keysmashbandit i think ppl quite reasonably have very little trust in society to care for them or treat them well once they no longer directly provide value via working

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Matt Bruenig
Matt Bruenig@MattBruenig·
@trallala93 @Noahpinion well as you may now there are other ways people can disrupt the system, industrial sabotage, killing, things of that nature
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Noah Smith 🐇🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼
People don't enjoy their jobs. What they like is the idea that they have some sort of leverage over society, to *make* society give them food and shelter instead of just *begging* for it. That's why most people don't want to be on welfare, even if they'd have more *stuff*.
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Matt Bruenig
Matt Bruenig@MattBruenig·
@Noahpinion Welfare aversion is rooted in social stigma around it indicating that you are some kind of loser or failure. People don't feel this way about all kinds of welfare (K-12 schooling, CTC, Social Security) only the welfare that is poor-associated.
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@jakehalloran1 @punished_daniel Why will the government care about voter preferences if voters don’t wield power to withhold their labor or revolt? Ultimately all democratic power is a compromise between governments and people for mutual benefit. If voters can excercise any power no one’s going to respond
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champagne papineau@trallala93·
@_ontologic There’s only a narrow window of time before social consensus doesn’t matter anymore
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∿spencer.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​
Didn’t expect this to get any attention tbh, if I did I would have phrased it more carefully. When I say “broad enough social consensus” I don’t consider majority rule to be the bar that needs to be cleared
∿spencer.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​@_ontologic

It’s very stupid of AI fans to pretend that massive changes to the nature of work and human existence can happen without broad enough social consensus

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