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@Maqitzara care to elaborate on this ''As for the central sahara the horse and camel riders were of the same ethnicity,perhaps different tribal affiliations''

The arrival of the Camel in the western boundaries of the Sahara marks the arrival of Amazigh groups compared to the older pastoral inhabitants As for the central sahara the horse and camel riders were of the same ethnicity,perhaps different tribal affiliations

@Maqitzara nah, there is dumb, and there is this boy. he is a in a different level of craziness

Out of all dumb takes this one is the funniest

@Maqitzara ah OK got it

@travis_madox no,i only referred to levantine pastoralists as the first,Skhirat

Another time i get vindicated is that i pointed out rock art here is probs Levantine akin and Daugas et al. 2008 had alr marked the area above that based on archeological survey that the people from Skhirat came through the Sahara passing through there

@Maqitzara YES, you said levantine patoralists come through 2 waves, the figure is clear

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@Maqitzara more like mentally deranged.

They are losing their minds over the SKH reconstruction

@Maqitzara @justtoknow010 while i agree with you on the fact that SK come from Egypt 100% but, execuse me, you and modeling shouldn't be in the same sentence, most your modeling are Bogus. here is the modeling done by Harald Ringbauer where he stressed that the model of previous studies were less precise

@justtoknow010 its a model for KEB which you said was 50% EEF

@IlA30032 Is it true that it is now impossible to get y dna from my heritage?

dna-explained.com/2026/03/30/the… منشور للخبيرة Roberta Estes في مدونتها يوم 30 مارس 2026 حول ان شركة FTDNA اعلنت الانتقال الى تقنية NGS بدلا من تقنية Microarray القديمة اما من ناحية سعر سيكون كما هو ثمن Family Finder حيث سيتم تسحين من التغطية حيت كان في Microarray 0.02 بالمئة اما تقنية NGS سيكون افضل 9 بالمئة بفضل انتقال تقنية NGS من تغطية محدودة تبلغ 700 ألف (SNP) إلى مسح شامل يصل لـ 280 مليون موقع ، سيصبح بإمكان المختبرين تحديد فروعهم على السلالات الذكرية والأنثوية (Y-DNA & mtDNA) طبعا لن تكون عميقة مثل اختبار Y-big700 و mtfull sequence قبل مدة سئلت احد اعضاء الادارة شركة FTDNA هل الاعضاء الفاحصين Family Finder الذين فحصوا قبل الاعلان هذا و لم يرقوا نتائجهم هل سوف يحصلون على نتائج mtDNA ف قال ان الاصدار القديم والحديث سيحصلون على نتائج للنتظر

@NotaT240400 from the 9 males 5 are under E-M81...

Résultats génomiques cimetière islamique d’Ibiza Maqbara Madina Yabisa 950–1150: 2 individus s.157, s.313 : profil européen 8 individus: intermédiaires entre Europe, Moyen-Orient et Afrique du Nord 1 individu s.107 : profil berbère 2 individus (s.117, s.197): profil sub-saharien

@hamza_bdi @tmooofi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@tmooofi لابد من دراسة هذه العينة لأنها مهمة لأن ممكن تواجد العرب أقدم من الفتوحات في شمال افريقيا

تم ادراج الرفات التي تم التنويه لها سابقا على FGC-2 . وتم التحديد حسب فاملي تري انها في بلغاريا وبعمر 200-400 ميلادي

@MiroCyo Yes possibly. Or simply some slave from Rome?

@travis_madox Def not, but maybe Cyrenaica?

The same strange genetic profile keeps showing up: roughly 1/3 South Levantine, 1/3 Berber, 1/3 Ancient Egyptian This individual sits on a clade parallel to the Cohen one Ethnically, probably Jews?

@MiroCyo Is Maghreb bronze age-to early modern homogeneous, what's it's admixture ?

@punicist Hopefully we will get the study soon. Any idea on the samples haplogroups, or their ids?

We finally know the genetic makeup of Roman Africans, and it's VERY surprising: First, who were they? Roman Africans were the Roman-era inhabitants of the province of Roman Africa, which includes Eastern Algeria, Tunisia, and West Libya. Famous Roman Africans include: Septimus Severus, Tertullian, Saint Augustine of Hippo, Saint Cyprian of Carthage, Apuleius, Terence.. The Roman African profile was spotted in a database of thousands of coordinate samples. The profile is a very stable one, and it shows little internal variation across multiple samples, suggesting it was a well-established population profile rather than the result of individual recent admixture which would count as outliers. This profile is also very similar to a coordinate we already have, which is a Roman-era East Algerian (ID: R10766). Surprisingly, these Roman Africans were most similar to modern-day North African Jews, Levantine Sephardic Jews, Egyptian Jews, Maltese, Italians, Aegean Greeks, Levantine Christians, and North African Arabs with substantial Jewish or Roman ancestry (Moroccan Urbanite Arabs from Fes, who have a lot of Jewish ancestry, and sedentary Eastern Tunisians). The reason is that these Roman Africans derive their ancestry from the following groups: 1. Antique Western Anatolians (from 30-50%) 2. Iron Age Italians (20-25%) 3. Iron Age Levantines (15-22%), and 4. Iron Age North African Berbers (15-20%) A (more speculative) Western Roman African profile was also spotted, also similar to a coordinate we already have (ID: I33810), which may be similar to the Eastern one, with just a little North African shift (possibly around 30% Berber), which would make it also similar to North African and Mediterranean Jews, North African Arabs with substantial Jewish or Roman ancestry (Again, Moroccan Urbanite Arabs from Fes and sedentary Eastern Tunisians), as well as other Sephardic Jews, South Italians, and Christian/Alawite Levantines. So the predominant Roman African profile, across the province, was likely this similar. This is not to say that Roman Africans who were pure Berber, or pure Eastern Mediterranean did not exist. But it certainly does not seem like either were a predominant profile in Roman Africa stricto sensu. Surprisingly, Roman Africans are not particularly close to the majority of modern-day Maghrebis, except those listed above. Namely Urbanite Moroccans from the city of Fez, Moriscos (who are the descendants of Iberian Muslims), who are a minority of Moroccans, and sedentary Eastern Tunisians, who comprise around 40-45% of the country's population. With that said, we know that distance is not the same as ancestry. Modern Egyptian Muslims, for example, are not the closest match to Ancient Egyptians, but a significant part of their ancestry is still from Ancient Egyptians. So, despite being distant, do modern Maghrebis still derive their ancestry from Roman Africans? The answer is yes, to a considerable (but not predominant) extent. Even though most modern North Africans are not similar to Roman Africans, practically all of them still have notable Roman African ancestry. Let's start with the upper range: Sedentary Eastern Tunisians have 65%-80% Roman African ancestry. Interestingly, this was already noted by some anthropologists in the 20th century. Berber groups (For example: Chaoui Berbers in Algeria, Southeastern Tunisian Zenata Berbers) would have around 30% Roman African ancestry. Rural Arabs (including "Arabized Berbers") are more diverse: Many Eastern Tunisian Bedouins have around 43% Roman African ancestry, meanwhile, Algerian Arabs in Algiers (of various backgrounds) on average seem to score around 35% Roman African ancestry. Arabized Berbers around the Aures and in the rural central plains of Tunisia have around 25% Roman African ancestry. The reason why most modern North Africans cluster away from Roman Africans is mainly due to modern Maghrebis having substantial Moorish-Berber ancestry, which is very distinct. This Moorish-Berber ancestry increased substantially during the Moorish-Vandal and Moorish-Byzantine conflicts of the 6th and 7th centuries A.D. A study on Byzantine Africa is due to be published, hopefully shortly, which may confirm and explain these conclusions in greater detail. But unless there is a huge surprise in this study, I can say with the utmost certainty that the puzzle of Roman African demographics has been solved, at least in the eastern and northern regions of the Roman province of Africa (which constitute the bulk of the province in demographic terms). Note 1: Roman Africa, in my model, is a combination of both the Eastern and Western profiles of Roman Africans. Note 2: Moorish-Berber, in my model, is a combination of Iron Age Berbers and modern Berbers belonging to the Ait Atta tribe of the Chleuh Berbers, from Morocco. Note 3: All of this is only applicable to Roman Africa stricto sensu, which is the region that includes Eastern Algeria, Tunisia, and Western Libya. Both Morocco and Eastern Libya may have very different ancestral patterns, and different "Roman" profiles altogether.

@MiroCyo is Maghreb MBA, include the samples from Iberia or it's new samples?

Toubou and Fulani ancestry model on my well-curated proximal calc Quoted post applies here as well, with the exception of Neolithic of Caspian Tradition (Tunisia N) and Ethiopian LSA (Mota), which do kick in

@MiroCyo @ShamshiAdad1700 It's out of context, but does the Jewish stories of expelling Canaanites to north west africa, hold any merit?

nah far too early to be relevant. best case is that the tribe of joseph (assuming its even real and not just larp by 'proto' ephraim and manasseh tribes held in captivity in egypt) contains a kernel of truth from them, but i doubt it tbh. i think habiru coming in and out of egypt over time connected themselves to those early hyksos as a source of provide for a time when their distant kin ruled their oppressors

The Habiru were a broad group of Levantine bandits/raiders that harassed Canaanite city states during the late Bronze Age. They were not connected to the Israelites. I also noticed how the previous waves of highland Canaanite settlement were not included in this.

@MiroCyo And can you elaborate on the keb ancestry

@MiroCyo So ANA was E-M215?

All West Eurasians have ANA (an African related population genetically), even all the way into Scandinavia. It's tiny in Europe (<1% of ancestry in most), but it's there. Quickly on how it happened: Kebaran-related groups go into Egypt during the LGM, mix with ANA Wild Nile Phase pushes these groups west, they become IBM. They also escape to the east, become Mushabian Mushabian mixes with Kebaran to create Natufian Natufian punches up into the north Levant (Khiamian) and mixes to create Upper Meso - North Levant PPNA These groups go west (two waves) into Anatolia, creating the Central Anatolia N Aceramic profile, Central Anatolia N Ceramic profile, and West Anatolia N Ceramic profile One of these West Anatolia N Ceramic profiles, archaeologically known as the Fikirtepe Culture, has a massive expansion all over Europe.

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