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@lu_sichu @snuppydogg !! add me

@snuppydogg there is a fun facts gc i can invite people to cough

I knew a girl who used to date way out of her league on the apps and it was because she just used them to exchange fun facts with guys

@voooooogel @carbonadoks @norvid_studies @lu_sichu @max_spero_ wow that’s quite impressive

@carbonadoks @norvid_studies @turtlelambvase @lu_sichu @max_spero_ hmm i could try. but also pangram is better now and no longer classifies that text as ai-written :,-(

does anyone think that data scrapers care about the color of your skin(how the fuck would they know anyway) this is sheer garbage. when they collect writing data, they are stealing library genesis and every fanfiction website out there that have an exposed api for downloading en masse. "unusual writing process" honestly if they come out and admit they are doing ai writing experiments(like @gwern) that would be much more impressive. it takes skills to edit and prompt the llms not to sound like nails being scraped on a blackboard right now

@PresidentLebo imagine getting to be the lawyer who cites the "Plymouth Sedan v. Pennsylvania precedent" in Nebraska v. One 1970 2-Door Sedan Rambler (Gremlin)

*leguin reading lesswrong* many of you have the courage to write a post headed "towards" some lofty goal. but which of you have the courage to walk *away* from that imagined utopia?

@norvid_studies @lu_sichu @max_spero_ not sure about this argument generally. let's say you submitted a string of random bits to pangram, this would be super ood for both human and ai-assisted, so who's to say what it would pick. steelmanning the qrt maybe sufficiently "underserved" human text is like this?

@lu_sichu isn't the complaint backwards? it's matching text to 'likelihood' to be generated by AI, so weird human text out of the distribution the AI is trained on is *less* likely to match an AI as a false positive, rather than more? @max_spero_ is this too simple?

@Aella_Girl could i get an invite?

Glosso is kinda poppin??? I can't believe I just accidentally went and made a social media website this is so insane

don’t worry joyce you can just use the emdash…you’ve earned it….

“if you meet the buddha on the road, kill him” call that avoiding use after free

@psychiel dyscrownia tomasbjartur.com/penny-s-hands.…

Also, I want a brain-chip that allows me to parse crows the way crows parse crows. So that I can see a crow and instantly perceive whether or not it's particularly handsome, or creepy-looking, or middle-aged, or sleepy, or if it's got stubby wings or an unsightly long beak.

@TuhinChakr @KelseyTuoc @TheStalwart @Qivshi1 @iclr_conf why would they all be of different genres? how would you distinguish a phrase appearing in three prior flash fiction pieces?

@turtlelambvase @KelseyTuoc @TheStalwart @Qivshi1 @iclr_conf probably one that is closest to the genre ?

Interesting. I had assumed that AI’s annoying writing tics emerged from post-training. That the models had, essentially, over-learned certain effective rhetorical techniques. But if I’m reading @TuhinChakr correctly, the problem is the training data itself.

@TuhinChakr @KelseyTuoc @TheStalwart @Qivshi1 @iclr_conf do you claim that you have an accurate way to find the "likely source" out of those n links? if your search returned three instances of the same phrase, is the AI "drawing from" any particular one?

@KelseyTuoc @TheStalwart @Qivshi1 @iclr_conf You cannot observe an LLMs process. At somepoint you need to draw an argument that what is the likely source of fiction where it has drawn from based on n links that is returned. You are being pedantic about it

why is the throat clearing of “i know you’re busy, so keeping it brief” so common? its self-defeating - you make the message longer by including it!

@owenbroadcast with that being said, the refutation to “i could paint that” seems to me much more simply “no you can’t” rather than the argument from the artist for ai art (which i agree with, to be clear)

@owenbroadcast ah, yeah, you’re right, i was thinking of the “dedicated artist” crowd, but the circle of people who dislike ai art seems much wider than that, enveloping those who dont care (to/or) understand modern art

the people who thought “defending art” meant throwing away the modern idea that the artist, their story, the story behind the art, and the art’s place in history all matter as much as what the end result looks like are now going to embrace these principles as an anti-AI stance.

@owenbroadcast what's your model of someone who would be offended by the latter statement and not by the former?

“its just a blue square, i could paint that” is the same as “but i can make this image with AI” now. you now see that who the artist is cannot be separated from the art. this is the modern condition. we can all just get on the same page now. we will not hold this against anyone.

@melissa cf. “chat” as commonhand slang, the gen z panopticon attitude

i don't know if i want to live in permanent performance art. i see the ai story win and i see performance art. the judge's ai commentary on the winning ai piece is performance art. the contest response, to the obviousness of ai, to anyone who has ever used ai before, is inadvertent performance art. "we don't know yet, and perhaps we never will know" they are performing. they want to play the part of people who do not use ai. they've all cast themselves as starring in the movie called decent people do not use ai when i start looking i start seeing the performance art disease everywhere i think about timothee chalamet in the woody allen movie. he did the woody allen movie and then he said he did not know about woody allen. ok. he played the part and then played the part of a decent person. by taking a stand against woody allen we are supposed to believe that he was not excited to work with woody allen. that he did not know that it would make his career. "i am shocked. shocked! to find that gambling is going on in here!" "your winnings, sir." "oh. thank you very much." i mean. i don't care about woody allen. or timothee chalamet. but the performance art worked for him right? at least in the eyes of those who exact the decent person groupthink now i watch performance art play out in places i don't live. the mayor of los angeles wants to give methheads teeth. the meth lost their teeth and she wants to put them back. she says you can't get jobs without teeth. she sees no teeth and thinks that is the thing. no teeth is the thing standing between methheads and jobs if only he had teeth. he'd be qualified to perform surgery on you is this not performance art? who is she talking to? we don't know yet. and perhaps we never will know

@tolstoybb hyperstitionai.com/unslop this is happening, not sure of final results though

I do wonder what the best short story that scores a pangram hundo would look like. Probably not worth the effort from a literary viewpoint to create something so relatively ugly, but maybe a fun research exercise!

@majamediaco morale is so important

i think cold email is one of those topics that goes viral often, because it is actually about agency people like being reminded that the world is more porous than it looks. it returns a sense of possibility that can be easily lost

@SpencrGreenberg is this much of a filter? would be a more difficult question to ask which ones *from* a major org….

A question for you: what's one of the most interesting or valuable essays or articles you've ever read that's not from a major media organization?

@elladorn_ standout essays for u?

Graham Greene on Henry James is REALLY GOOD