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We build infrastructure to train & deploy financial LLMs, backed by 3 years of real-world agentic trading data.

Los Angeles | Brisbane Katılım Nisan 2008
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Our first public presentation - give it a watch!
Justin Bebis@justinbebis

I presented @uv at the 0G Apollo demo day. UV is a culmination of nearly 4 years of research and development: 1. A financial harness designed for performance at scale 2. Data & research for training better financial LLMs Give it a watch and tell me what you think!

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i suspect the data market will be analogous to the high-finance of the AI world - multiple firms engaging in mutual cooperation & competition. more thoughts: in the same way that a major M&A deal may have 2 banks engaged, major data initiatives often require cooperation from 2 firms that otherwise compete after smaller deals. each relevant data company has some blend of human expert supply, proprietary data moats, and elite research talent. the market is large enough that there can be multiple unicorn/decacorn winners, and lab diversification requirements also ensure that this is not a winner-take-all market. barring frontier labs and compute companies, data will be the single most fascinating market to watch evolve over the next decade.
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Did you know that the finance industry is the #1 consumer of inference globally? In fact, they're the #1 AI spender in general - finance companies will spend nearly $100B on AI this year. UV makes every single one of their outputs safer, more performant, and more efficient.
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Cambrian Network 🪴@CambrianNetwork·
Big news: we’ve raised $11.9 million to build the world’s financial intelligence layer. @Polychain and Franklin Templeton @FTDA_US share our conviction that the future of finance will be increasingly orchestrated by AI agents. The missing ingredient that separates winning agents from slopbots? Financial intelligence. Agents are beginning to consume human lifetimes' worth of data in minutes. As AI, digital assets, and traditional finance converge, the agentic appetite for data will grow larger – as will the challenge in separating noise from signal. Cambrian specializes strictly in financial data, delivering actionable intelligence designed for this new agentic world. The best financial decisions are predicated on the best intelligence. Join the new financial revolution. Register at cambrian.org
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Proud to announce we're accelerating with the help of @GoogleCloud We're using Google Cloud to improve the security and scalability of our infrastructure, and to power our inference and training. We're grateful for their support & look forward to changing the world with them!
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Would a reasonable person ever guess that a 25 year old energy company could trade at over 1000 P/E? Would a reasonable AI model? Teaching LLMs to manage assets means helping them understand how liquidity, volatility, and social factors combine to create unintuitive outcomes in the market. If you remember the COVID toilet paper shortage, you know how people act when critical resources start to become scarce. Markets can act the same way: part of our job is to teach LLMs to look beyond the technical fundamentals of a market & understand the human psychology that drives them. To accomplish this, we evaluate models not based on knowledge, but on intuition. We reward models for making surprising decisions that lead to positive outcomes. We reward models for choosing unique data sources to look for invalidation. We reward models for acknowledging exotic risks. This results in models that can express trades creatively and find the strange correlations that lead to 25 year old energy companies trading at over 1000 P/E.
Justin Bebis@justinbebis

American traders had access to trillions of dollars in AI upside since the launch of ChatGPT. Most didn't see a penny of it. @uv asks: how can we teach AI to navigate long-horizon macro trades like this? The hard part is - if you showed an AI model one of these charts and told it to trade, it would cheat by mapping data or news to the trading outcome. All of this information is already contained in the model. So to teach AI how to trade long-horizon outcomes, you need to: 1. Enrich these charts with every possible detail 2. Study them to understand their fundamental nature 3. Create new, imaginary charts that are sufficiently realistic for models to learn without cheating. This is how reinforcement learning can help models navigate real markets - backed by tremendous amounts of human labor!

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Justin Bebis
Justin Bebis@justinbebis·
American traders had access to trillions of dollars in AI upside since the launch of ChatGPT. Most didn't see a penny of it. @uv asks: how can we teach AI to navigate long-horizon macro trades like this? The hard part is - if you showed an AI model one of these charts and told it to trade, it would cheat by mapping data or news to the trading outcome. All of this information is already contained in the model. So to teach AI how to trade long-horizon outcomes, you need to: 1. Enrich these charts with every possible detail 2. Study them to understand their fundamental nature 3. Create new, imaginary charts that are sufficiently realistic for models to learn without cheating. This is how reinforcement learning can help models navigate real markets - backed by tremendous amounts of human labor!
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SITUATION EXPLAINED: How much are frontier labs actually spending on training data? .@SeanZCai: "Frontier labs are spending about $10 to $15 billion per lab on data." "Really good long horizon tasks go up to $20,000 each. A complete browser-use version of SAP was rumored at $500,000." "Despite everybody thinking the market is super crowded, we still don't have enough good quality data vendors that actually understand how to deliver product plus services in a way researchers are looking for." "I have not seen a contract for genuinely good data gets turned down because of budgetary concerns yet."
Sean Cai@SeanZCai

On data markets: A while ago, Anthropic said that they would be spending a billion dollars this year on RL data. This year, that amount will be far exceeded, with good data rarely being turned down for budget concerns. We can expect OpenAI to be of similar mindset, although the window for banal data projects serviced by the likes of Mercor is rumored to be closing entirely this year. Deepmind, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, and xAI are known to be N-1 labs who may buy datasets already saturated by the likes of Anthropic, or buy RL environments in light of not having a system like Tundra in Anthropic. The TAM is still 10s of billions if not more and the raw aggregate spent on data will only continue to increase. But one must remember what is bought when data is sold, because few today can really differentiate Mercor/Handhshake from a Mechanize/Surge. Data is valuable, to frontier labs, based on how much it can be easily used to improve frontier models. To show this capability, it matters whether teams selling data can show how most directly it can be used to hillclimb models, how much frontier SOTA models struggle on its benchmarks, and how much trouble they can save the frontier lab in its continual acquisition. Data sold is, therefore, very much resembling selling outcomes rather than an actual reusable product, which is why one must obsess about indexing on the scalable means of producing internal systems that can help end model trainers produce outcomes rather than fixating on data itself when evaluating RL environment companies. In this way, the TAM of data markets is actually extremely greenfield and growing, because few teams have the sophistication for research services and scale for on demand consistently QA’ed data. It is the semblance of this product with which Mercor was able to overtake Scale, the semblance of this product which many newer upstarts are painting as an argument to chip away at Mercor/Handshake/Surge’s lunches. From my April's edition of State of Data on substack:

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Who'd've guessed that UV Labs would end up one of the only legitimate competitors to Jane Street. I mean we guessed of course but nice to see others starting to guess as well 🤠
Prakash@8teAPi

So Jane Street is going public because obviously they see the future where the model labs compete directly with them in the market. The strategic decision is therefore to become a a specialized infrastructure harness for a future frontier model. Tellingly they point out that the latency constraints mean there is no time for inference at the GPU layer, or agentic tool use at the CPU layer, only reflexive heuristics at the FPGA layer. @yminsky is trying to fend off future model lab competition by making Jane Street indispensable to a future AGI. interesting strategy

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@8teAPi so we're the only legitimate competitors to Jane Street - good to know
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Prakash@8teAPi·
So Jane Street is going public because obviously they see the future where the model labs compete directly with them in the market. The strategic decision is therefore to become a a specialized infrastructure harness for a future frontier model. Tellingly they point out that the latency constraints mean there is no time for inference at the GPU layer, or agentic tool use at the CPU layer, only reflexive heuristics at the FPGA layer. @yminsky is trying to fend off future model lab competition by making Jane Street indispensable to a future AGI. interesting strategy
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🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨 We just launched our new website! uvlabs.ai
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@swillinger @Shaughnessy119 our agents are already outperforming equivalent algorithms. not only that, but the people using them have lower churn rates and higher LTV. we could give Hermes access to our API 🤠
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Tommy@Shaughnessy119·
My take on the perps debate is whoever makes it easy to trade via your Hermes agent wins Agentic finance is the biggest market ever and eventually agents will trade, and build new DeFi primitives, autonomously
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