@gregzimpleman It was the second best decision my father made in his career our farm has been on a fiscal year since 1980
His best decision was to buy land every chance he could
People ask me what is a decision that helped our farm operation when we became incorporated. Not having a Dec 31 year end. Fertilizer companies, seed companies etc….know that the money is gonna flow to them at that time.
Trying to do some tough math in my head…
If every farmer is disappointed in their crop because the yield potential appeared to be higher but didn’t get there..
And every field was slightly above APH..
That still makes for a potential record crop, right?
@Matthew1530896@cfarms76 Take 2.23 times the national average yield for corn of that year put that total in the inflation calculator then compare 4.00 times 186 and see what the difference is it will still be some difference but not the 3x your showing
@theLandTalker I farmed thru the eighties there are all kinds of differences now
1. No non ag money buying land in the eighties
2. Long term interest rate was 2x of today
3. Only asset loans back then no lender cared if you could cash flow it
4. Farmers with big land debt arent as leveraged
Did the 1980's look like this? Strong Prices in Hancock Co, IL.
SOLD!
TRACT 1 - $20,150.00 PER ACRE
TRACT 2 - $20,100.00 PER ACRE
TRACT 3 - $13,700.00 PER ACRE
TOTAL - $4,337,209.50
@AgrisAcademy My father and grandfather built are grain system in 1978 my big bin in that project was a 48-15 ring bin still using today on second set of fans and unload original floor this a generational investment not a decade investment
Building new bin space does not pay enough relative to other opportunities we see for farms. The inflation in building space has out run the returns
Here are the assumptions and the MATH
- Building space for storing corn, soybeans with the only income stream from storage. Grain conditioning, wet bins, cooling bins are other revenue sources.
- The long tern NET returns of storage are 30 cents a bushel. Keep in mind interest, shrink, electricity, taxes have to come out of the gross
- Cost of new space including conveyance 3.00 per bushel of space. Includes site prep, concrete, steel, labor, load in and out. (If you can get it done in your geography cheaper share on X for your fellow farmers)
The dreaded MATH
1. It is a 10-year payback
2. Internal Rate of Return 6.3%. This includes the tax shield of 100% upfront depreciation. This is how corporations value projects or acquisitions. (Mike and I have bought everything from palm plantations to cow kill plants on behalf of INC.) There is no reason farms can't use the same analytics.
IM if you want the model. It is super easy to put in your own assumptions.
3. If I am borrowing at 9% on $3.00 per bushel it 27 cents a bushel just in interest cost.
It is not that bins for basic storage do not pay it they don't pay enough. We see higher returning projects. We also find that as merchandising skills increase storage demands actually decrease.
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Just want to throw this out there to get an idea of what Bulls are expecting with a China deal. How many Beans do you actually think China buys for this marketing year?
Today has been the hardest day of my life. I lost my dad in a farming accident. He died doing what he loved most: farming. He was the hardest working person that I know. He cared so much about the land, for the cattle, and being a good neighbour.
Love you forever dad. ❤️
@BenRiensche@gwiesefarms I survived the 80s 2 huge differences today the high interest in the 80s was 18% not 8
And in the 80s almost no out side money buying land
It’s my opinion that land might stay flat to down 10% nothing like the 80s of retracting 60-80%
May I suggest you build your own balance sheet and then run it by your lender.
Don’t let someone else build it for you. This is your position. Only you know it and only you should build it. Ask for help if needed.