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Wes Deviers

@wesdeviers

Technologist, nerd, refined rural citizan. I only post in good faith.

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@BREGOH @system_monarch Relax... The target audience is people who previously didn't know load balancers work at multiple layers. It'll be okay.
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Brite@BREGOH·
I would think that a principal engineer at Atlasian would know better than to hash client IP. Again, why would you have provisioned servers? Why your write up is nice, I think engineers should first understand what they are scaling before they start. This is rooted in the understanding of systems designs. Your points are very high level.
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Puneet Patwari@system_monarch·
I've been a backend Engineer for 12+ years. Today, I'm a Principal Engineer at Atlassian. I've designed systems that handle millions of requests. Sat on both sides of system design interviews. Reviewed more architecture docs than I can count. Starting today, I'm breaking down the fundamentals of scaling for the next 25 days. If you're learning system design bookmark this thread, you're going to get a lot of learning from this.
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Wired.Wolf287@WWolf287·
IP law is cringe because ideas are just concepts that can be infinitely reproduced once generated, ie, they lack scarcity. It's just another forced monopoly that requires a centralized authority to maintain. While I can understand the plagiarism angle, which is why I'm still in favor of open source licensing, full blown copyrights and patents ultimately work against the free market and only serve to protect non-productive parasites. Then again, you seem to believe that technological progression was zero prior to the invention of IP, so perhaps my short essay was ultimately wasted on you.
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Libertarian Party
Libertarian Party@LPNational·
First-sale doctrine is one of the oldest property rights in the common law. You buy a book, it is yours. Lend it, resell it, will it to your kids, burn it in the yard, keep it for fifty years. The seller loses all say the moment money changes hands. Federal law flipped that on its head for anything digital. Every ebook you buy ships wrapped in a lock, and DMCA Section 1201 makes breaking that lock a crime, even on books you paid for. The state did not simply fail to protect your property. The state wrote the statute that criminalizes defending it. Let people own what they buy.
HOSTIS@hostis_black

On May 20, Amazon ended support for every Kindle made in 2012 or earlier. The devices can no longer buy, borrow, or download books. Reset one to factory settings and it will never log back in. The screen still works. The hardware is fine. Amazon reached across the internet and turned a thing you paid for into a brick, on a date they picked, for a reason that benefits them. The owners bought the devices. They bought the books. They followed every rule. Amazon changed the rules anyway, because the rules were never yours. When you tap "Buy now" on a Kindle book, you are not buying a book. You are renting a license that Amazon can revoke, expire, or strand on a dead device whenever it suits the quarter. They designed it this way on purpose, and they showed us the blueprint years ago. In 2009 Amazon reached into thousands of Kindles overnight and deleted, ironically, copies of George Orwell's 1984, a book people had already paid for. They refunded everyone, apologized, and promised never again. We took the promise for what it was worth and watched the door instead. In February 2025 they shut it. They removed Download and Transfer via USB, the last simple tool that let you pull your own purchases onto your own computer and keep them. Newer Kindle files use a format almost nobody can crack. They closed the exit, then they started bricking the devices. None of this was a surprise. They proved in 2009 that they could reach into your library and take a book back. Everything since has just been them deciding when. A copy you cannot hold is a copy you do not own. A library that lives on someone else's server is a library someone else can burn. The cartel rents you access to the words and calls it ownership, and the only reason most people never notice is that the landlord usually lets them stay. May 20 was the eviction notice. It went to 3% of Kindle owners this time. The lease is identical for the other 97%. Stop buying books you cannot hold. When you do buy from Amazon, strip the DRM the day it arrives and keep a clean file somewhere they cannot reach. Back up everything you already own while you still can. A book on your own drive is yours forever. A book in your Amazon account is yours until a lawyer in Seattle decides otherwise. And when you want a book the cartel has priced out of reach or locked behind a dying device, the shadow libraries that never expire are one search away. The pirates build libraries that cannot be revoked, because they assume the cartel always will. The cartel cannot delete what it cannot reach.

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@J_Von_Random @StabbyTheCrab @esrtweet Nope; as I read it, you were responding to the "datacenters can be replaced by local hardware" thread. If I misread that, though, I'm sorry. I remember similar predictions from when public cloud exploded. "Oh it's just temporary, soon we'll all run K8S clusters at home.."
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Eric S. Raymond
Eric S. Raymond@esrtweet·
Economics is a harsh mistress. Devices like this running open-source LLMs are the reason I believe the current massive wave of data-center buildouts is a massive over-investment that's going to end in a crash. All that's needed for the value proposition of the big AI providers to pop like a bubble is for the tokens-per-second return of a device like this one to get fast enough for practical use. In this video, it looks very much like it has. And they're going to get faster - RISC-V chips are still underpowered, but that will change as soon as one of the startups working the problem begins shipping out-of-order implementations. I've lived through two technology-driven speculative bubbles; dot-com and the less-remembered fiber mania that preceded and overlapped with it. I know what they smell like, and we are in one now. youtu.be/bjH9qvOq_wk
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@J_Von_Random @StabbyTheCrab @esrtweet Nothing about that scales, or passes the "husband" or "wife" test: Will my non-nerd [husband/wife] tolerate a world in which my homelab runs his/her "hey chat?" and is down all the time?
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Ian Bruene
Ian Bruene@J_Von_Random·
SXM2 adapters have flooded the secondary market in order to use V100 modules. They are common enough that it jacked the price of those modules. There's also a flood of cheap waterblocks to cool them. There are adapters for SXM5, but they aren't plentiful yet because there isn't demand yet, because the GPUs which use them are still too expensive. AMD's version doesn't have third party adapters, but the original baseboards are starting to appear on ebay as well.
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
Solid take. In the meantime, senior engineers are going to have to wheelbarrow a lot of tar to stay employed.
Bruce F. Webster@bfwebster

Would be interested in your critique on this message I sent back to my son-in-law, a senior QA engineer whose company is drinking deeply of the AI-Will-Fix-Everything koolaid. —- SIL: Can I ask your honest opinion on AI? Where is this going to land? Me: Here’s where I think things are headed. There are a number of firms and individuals who are learning how to properly leverage AI and are doing amazing things with it. Everyone else who is using it are setting themselves up for serious problems, especially since a lot of them won’t recognize those problems until damage has been done. I think general public use of AI is going to run into the “unreliable narrator” pitfall: trust what the AI says and does when the information may be biased, misleading, or just plain wrong. This is not just the hallucination problem; it’s also biased or wrong information getting baked into the LLMs (eg, how much LLM training has been done based on Reddit threads). SIL: Some of my managers seem to ignore things like Skill Atrophy. I had the view that those in senior positions now are ok because they have the experience to help understand how to fix the issues with AI Coding. However, they seem to think those issues are just a matter of training AI to do better. But, skill atrophy is real, developers are writing about it and I know I've read some papers about studies into it. Things like Critical Thinking are decreasing because people rely on AI to do it for them. So I wonder if AI will really overcome these issues and become just as good if not better than humans at this. Are we going to see a takeover of engineering by AI? Me: No, because I think those efforts will lead to massive technical debt and serious maintenance problems. But I fear things will get ugly before then. Look, as it is roughly 2/3rds of software project are late, over budget, underperform, or fail altogether. As an industry, we’re just really bad at large software projects. AI will solve some of those problems at first, or at least appear to, but because of all the human reasons we’re bad at software, I think a lot of firms will end up in a AI legacy tar pit that will be hard to climb out of.

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@howard You're assuming quality matters. I argue that's a false assumption.
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Howard Lerman
Howard Lerman@howard·
Everyone is obsessed with AI making a 10x engineer a 1000x engineer. The recent reductions at CloudFlare and Click have me me realize the plot is equally about the inverse: AI amplifies the *negative* impacts of poor performers. If a person with poor taste, who makes mediocore judgement calls, and doesn't properly build things customers love is able to produce 10x more work - does a company want that? Hell no! Productivity isn't just about as many people as possible tokenmaxxing. AI is a double edged sword, especially when it's used to produce net new work. If you give a bad artist a pen that can draw 100x as fast, you're going to pile up with a lot of junky artwork very quickly. And since it happens so quickly leaders are now able to see quickly who is Picasso and who is not and adjust accordingly.
Zeb Evans@DJ_CURFEW

Today we reduced headcount by 22%. The business is the strongest it's ever been. So I think it's important to be direct about what I'm seeing and why. First, I made this decision and I own it. I did it because the way to operate at the highest level of productivity is changing, and to win the future, ClickUp needs to change with it. Second, this wasn't about cutting costs. Most savings from this change will flow directly back into the people who stay. We'll be introducing million-dollar salary bands. If you create outsized impact using AI, you'll be paid outside of traditional bands. Most importantly, I have the deepest gratitude for those affected. We're doing this from a position of strength specifically so we can take care of people properly. Everyone affected receives a package aimed at honoring their contributions and easing the transition. I only see two options: wait for this to play out gradually in the market or be honest about what I'm seeing and act proactively. THE 100X ORGANIZATION The primary change is that we're restructuring around what I call 100x org. The goal is 100x output. The roles required to build at the highest level are fundamentally different than they were a year ago. Incremental improvements to existing systems won't get us there. We need new ones. That means creating enough disruption to rebuild rather than iterate on what's already broken. The common narrative is that AI makes everyone more productive. It doesn't. Many of the workflows of today, if left unchanged, create bottlenecks in AI systems. These roles will evolve. But waiting for that to happen naturally means falling behind now. The 100x org is actually heavily dependent on people - infinitely more than today. This is only possible with 10x people that have embraced and adopted new ways of working. THE BUILDERS, AGENT MANAGERS, AND FRONT-LINERS — THE BUILDERS: 10X ENGINEERS I don't think most companies have internalized what's actually happening with AI in engineering. The common narrative is that AI makes all engineers more productive. That may be true in isolation, but at an organization level - that is the farthest thing from reality. Here's what we've validated recently at ClickUp: the great engineers, the ones who can orchestrate, architect, and review, are becoming 100x engineers. They're not writing code. They're directing agents that write code. The skill is judgment. AI makes the best engineers wildly more productive, and everyone else using AI slows these engineers down. Think about it - the bottlenecks are (1) orchestration - telling AI what to do, and (2) reviewing - what AI did. Everything is leapfrogged and no longer needed. So who do you want orchestrating and reviewing code? And how do you want your best engineers to spend their time? If your best engineers are spending time reviewing other people's code, then this is inherently an inefficient bottleneck. These engineers can review their agent's code much faster than reviewing human code. The new world is about enabling your 10x engineers to become 100x. The wrong strategy is to push every engineer to use infinite tokens. Companies doing this are celebrating 500% more pull requests. But customer outcomes don't match the volume of code being generated. I call this the great reckoning of AI coding, and every company will face this soon if not already. More code is just another bottleneck to the best engineers, and ultimately to your company's impact as well. — THE BUILDERS: 10X PRODUCT MANAGERS Product management and design roles are merging. Designers that have customer focus, become more like product managers. And product managers that have intuition for UX become more like designers. The bottleneck of user research is gone. It takes us just one mention of an agent to kickoff research and analyze results. The bottleneck of product <> design iteration is also gone. The product builder iterates on their own, along with agents and skills that ensure alignment with quality and strategy. Also controversial today - I believe that the wrong strategy is to have your PMs shipping code - that just introduces another bottleneck that the best engineers will waste their time on. To be clear, PMs should be coding but they should do this in a playground to iterate, validate, and scope. That code should not go to production. Everything outside of managing systems, orchestrating AI, and reviewing output becomes a bottleneck. That's why the other roles that are critical along with these are the systems managers (to reduce bottlenecks) along with a bottleneck you can't replace - customer meeting time. — THE SYSTEM MANAGERS Ironically, the people that automate their jobs with AI will always have a job. They become owners of the AI systems - agent managers. We have many examples of these people at ClickUp. The underlying systems in which we operate are absolutely critical to get right. I think most companies are delusional to think they can iterate on existing systems and compete in this new world. You must create enough disruption so that old systems are deprecated entirely. If there's any definition for 'AI native' that's what it is. — THE FRONT-LINERS In a world that will become saturated with AI communication, the human touch will matter more than anything to customers. This is a bottleneck that you shouldn't replace - even when agents are high enough quality to do video meetings. One-on-one meeting time with customers is something that shouldn't be automated. The systems around the meetings should be - so that front-liners spend nearly 100% of their time with customers. REWARDING 100X IMPACT In a world where companies are able to do so much more with less, where does that excess money go? In our case, much of the savings in this new operating model will flow directly back to those that enabled it. We must reward people that create productivity accordingly. This aligns incentives on both sides. Plus, in a world where your best people create 100x impact, you can't afford to lose them. You should aim to retain these employees for decades. The context they have and their ability to efficiently orchestrate and review will be nearly impossible to replace. Compensation bands of today should be thrown out the door. We're introducing $1 million cash/year salary bands with a path available to nearly everyone in the company if they produce 100x impact by creating or managing AI systems. THE FUTURE Nearly every company will make changes like these. The ones that do it proactively will define what comes next. The future is not fewer people. It's different work, new roles, and better rewards for those who embrace it. We're already seeing entirely new roles emerge, like Agent Managers, that didn't exist a year ago. ClickUp is positioning to lead this shift, not just internally, but for our customers too. I've never been more certain about where we're headed.

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@D_E_Harris_Best @AP I had a really long answer to this, but then I realized I didn't want to give unimaginative people ideas. I'll just stick with "you're not wrong, but your assertion is incomplete."
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D-E-Harris@D_E_Harris_Best·
Because modern guns are easy to use and don’t require measuring powder, hand tamping bullets into cartridges or tapping cylinders off a revolver. In the interest of full disclosure, my gun control policy is that I should be allowed to genetically engineer a foxgirl bodyguard and arm her with a suppressed, full-auto SBR that I just bought from an airport vending machine.
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A musket from 1776 can fire a lead ball at a velocity of around 1,000 feet per second. Imagine what that can do to a human body. Yet under federal and most state laws, it’s exempt from gun regulations. Many antique or replica guns aren’t considered firearms and even convicted felons can own them.
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
You unfortunately just proved an opposite case: you can buy all of that stuff from any mail order place w/ no background checks practically anywhere in the US. And yet.... and yet.... nobody is out there car jacking with a replica '58 New Army. Despite the fact that it's a perfectly fine weapon to carjack somebody with. Why.... why do you suppose that is?
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D-E-Harris@D_E_Harris_Best·
When is the last time you’ve heard of a serious criminal using a muzzle loaded black powder gun? I’m not saying that they’re harmless, but they require a bit more dedication to craft than someone with an impulse control problem is likely to have these days. We don’t need musket control.
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Get... on... the right side.@GetonTrightside·
@FenixAmmunition Are you sure this is actually feasible? Data centers are so incredibly large that it would require shutting down streets and combining a large number of lots, which a city might not even allow. And if they would allow it, it might take a very long time to be approved.
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Fenix Ammunition@FenixAmmunition·
This data center conversation has to be the worst thing I have ever seen because honestly both sides are wildly retarded and really the entire argument could be solved by just... putting data centers in industrial locations away from residential area. You know, where industrial installations belong. The reason they don't want to do that is because the land is more expensive. That's pretty much it. So, fuck off. Go buy land in an industrial area. You can afford it.
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
It's tedious in the same way writing fiction or reviewing bad movies might become. Writing enterprise software professionally is like reviewing Suburban Sasquatch because you need to pay rent with Patreon. When you write code for fun, you figure out how to fix the tedium. LLM dev is also fun for hobby use.
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Possum Reviews
Possum Reviews@ReviewsPossum·
I'm not a programmer, but it's my understanding that just about all programmers "steal" each other's work, and in fact, there are entire websites full of code specifically for copy/pasting because writing code from scratch is a tedious pain in the ass.
Bean Juice Studios@BeanJuiceStudio

I'm going to lose followers for saying this, but I couldn't give a single fuck if you or anyone "lost respect for me" for using AI. Teachers, police and even doctors ALL use AI whether you like it or not because it helps us do what we love. I'm sick of these virtue signallers.

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@ZappoMan @VicVijayakumar This is true for now, but it's a limited time window. Those things will stop mattering soon, just like DevOps and public cloud made infrastructure not matter. Not that it's better, just that in the end the people writing the checks don't care.
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Brad Hefta-Gaub | Fractional CTO
Yes, this is exactly what the high-performance teams I work with are doing. But I'm gonna push back on "I didn't write any of it, this is not my accomplishment". You applied your taste, which is the value you bring. You aligned the plan, reviewed every change, caught what the agent missed, you didn't let it over-engineer the fix, and put your name on the result. That's authoring, just at a different altitude than typing. The work got done well because you did it with taste and experience. Typing isn't about taste, authorship is.
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Vic 🌮@VicVijayakumar·
I'm now able to tell my agent “we are going to work on JIRA-1234” and it goes and pulls down the task, makes me a plan, I say yeah okay that looks good, and it generates the commit. I run an AI review from a different session, it finds 4 issues of varying priorities, I paste it to my original agent and say validate these findings and fix them if necessary, it creates a fix, I run another review, no more high priority issues found. I open up the code in an IDE to go over it before pushing it up for human review. Looks fine I guess, nothing crazy. I try to understand everything before I push it up for review because if this breaks, it's still my name on it. I say why did you make this one change, it gives me a reasonable explanation for why. It says something codebaity like "if you want I can suggest 2 more ways you could really tighten up this work to prevent some rare but possible regressions". I'm smart enough to not fall for it. Code pushed up, task moved to in-review. I didn't write any of it, this is not my accomplishment. Users won't care who wrote it if it works. A lot done in 20 mins but it felt soulless.
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World of Engineering
World of Engineering@engineers_feed·
What happens in your head when you add 37+48?
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@SpencrGreenberg Language is the core of power - there's a reason people argue so much over it. You do great work, btw. Glad I ran across the youtube channel.
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Spencer Greenberg 🔍
Spencer Greenberg 🔍@SpencrGreenberg·
The joy of writing about gender or sex-related topics on Twitter in 2026: Biological sex -> “What are you, a trans phobic creep? Btw, humans are not rats.” Gender -> “Don’t you mean sex? Or are you an idiot?” Men and women -> “Stop erasing other genders.” Men, women, and other genders -> “Ugh, I didn’t realize you’re infected by the woke mind virus” Males and females -> “I can’t stand anyone who calls women ‘females’”
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Spencer Greenberg 🔍
Spencer Greenberg 🔍@SpencrGreenberg·
@PaulaSeeksTruth It’s a good question but it’s hard to answer in the abstract since there are many types of unreasonable.
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
I think the fault in your logic is that you assume owners like PE care about long term quality. But they don't, at least not generally. Flip the companies. Nobody gives a crap about technical debt or tech due diligence. Make garbage with AI, sell the company before the architectural debt comes due. That's already part of the playbook. AI accelerates the decline in quality... But only (unemployed) engineers care about quality.
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Dan Mullaney
Dan Mullaney@agenticgrowth·
The "run cheaply enough to get everybody fired, then raise prices" playbook only works if the replacement AI keeps working after the humans who understood the systems are gone. The layoff bet is really a bet that institutional knowledge wasn't doing anything important — which is how you find out the hard way that it was.
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Kareem Carr, Ph.D.
Kareem Carr, Ph.D.@kareem_carr·
My main take on AI is that it's far more expensive than big tech is implying. AI pipelines cost vastly more in money, time, and organizational attention to maintain than people are currently acknowledging, and adoption will be slower than expected mainly due to these costs.
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Danger Casey
Danger Casey@CaseySoftware·
I worked on a smaller scope of this problem ~20 years ago at the Library of Congress Our mission was to digitize everything the Library held BUT make sure it was recoverable for someone 100 or 1000 years ago To emphasize the point, my boss would bring two items to meetings: a handwritten captain's journal from a ship in the late 1700s and an 8" floppy. He'd pull out both and say "one of these is 200 years old, the other is 20. We can only read one of them" What we quickly decided is that EVERY digital format would become replaced and potentially unreadable over time Therefore, for the digitization steps, we would document the entire process - equipment models, settings, etc - and capture the uncompressed, raw output (tiff, wav, etc). The physical media was destined for an N-filled vault in Culpepper, VA The raw masters were kept unedited for preservation but then downsampled into smaller, more mobile formats (jpg, mp3) for presentation The goal was that every X years, archivists could pull the masters and update them to a new masters (likely keeping the old) and then generate then-modern compressed formats Thinking about "how does someone read this file format in 100 years?" was a *really* cool thought experiment to put into practice And btw, yes sometimes finding equipment to play the physical media was an adventure unto itself. The wax cylinders were the most novel and using images to "play" a record were the most novel but Edison's first motion pictures were something else entirely.. With that "something else" including nitroglycerin..
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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
You have to backtrack further into the past than that. The circumstances matter - did anybody force either of them to go to the bar? With each other? To keep drinking? To walk back to the room? If we hold people accountable for drunk driving, then we should hold people accountable for other actions taken while drunk. If you are going to say, "She was too drunk to know what she was doing" - I think that is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. But that's not how our society works. In EVERY OTHER CASE you are accountable for what you do while in altered states.
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Samuel Marley
Samuel Marley@coffeelover9457·
@NoncompliantJM @esrtweet If while drunk, and virtually incapacitated, you went in to her purse and opened her wallet and removed the cash and kept it for yourself. Did she consent to it?
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Eric S. Raymond
Eric S. Raymond@esrtweet·
Pick a lane, ladies. You can be strong independent women with agency who make your own choices. In which case if you "end up" staggering drunk in a man's bed, we get to presume that you wanted to be there and any sex that happens is consensual. Or, you can be helpless little flowers buffeted not just by the winds of fate but by errant breezes, ending up staggering drunk in mens' beds through no choice of your own - passive victims of their bestial urges. I'm okay with that frame, too, but only if you give up voting and spending money without the permission of your father or husband. This Schrödinger's-pussy thing where you oscillate between infinite and zero agency at your whim? Not stable, and the contradictions are eventually going to come around to bite women on the ass. All women, not just the ones playing shitty games. Choose wisely.
Ann Coulter@AnnCoulter

I sense a pattern. CNN: Four women describe sexual misconduct by Rep. Eric Swalwell <>

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Wes Deviers@wesdeviers·
@Ashley78186050 @leftlateral There's not actually much of America where that kind of crime happens very much. And nicer cars tend to be in nicer (low crime) neighborhoods. The thing about crime is that it tends to be hyper local.
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Ashley@Ashley78186050·
@leftlateral 逆になんの心配もなく置いておけるエリアがあるなら知りたい
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Ashley@Ashley78186050·
アメリカでの車選びって難しくないですか? 事故のリスクが高いから、安全な車を買いたい→安全な車は高級車→盗難や車上荒らしのリスクがあるもんなぁ。飛び石や動物とぶつかるかもしれないもんなぁ。勿体無いなぁ。 この無限ループ
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