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@Nxh63879923 @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded I don’t have all the answers, it’s possible people misremembered precisely what Jesus said. But a lot of the things you mention in your second line are reported in the Bible to have to have been witnessed when Jesus was crucified and ascended into heaven
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@woscasfrench @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded what he said clearly hasn’t happened yet
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@Nxh63879923 @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded I don’t have all the answers, it’s possible people misremembered precisely what Jesus said. But a lot of the things you mention in your second line are reported in the Bible to have to have been witnessed when Jesus was crucified and ascended into heaven
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@woscasfrench @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded “this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place” (Matt 24:34, Luke 21:32, Mark 13:30)
sun darkening, stars falling, Son of Man coming on clouds, angels gathering the elect (Matt 24:29-31, Luke 21:25-28)
where???
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@woscasfrench @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded 😂😂😂😂😂😂 u know full well that’s not what jesus said or meant. blasphemy maybe? literally putting words in his mouth go read ur bible
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael You’re not confronting anything, you’re just throwing slurs around because you’re scared you might have to give ground on something(which is pathetic) I didn’t ’ignore’ that as it’s another lie for you to claim that the Israelis had no prior intention of expanding their territory
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@woscasfrench @chalavyishmael I’m confronting it right now, and I’m not a jew nor an Israeli, but your implication of that speaks volumes.
Why did you ignore the Israelis not being the aggressors in the 1947-9 war? What could be the reason to ignore such an important fact? 🤔
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael Thats it, that’s the kind of lying I’m taking about. Do you ever do much to confront actual antisemites, or do you reserve the term for when you’re crying wolf?
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@woscasfrench @chalavyishmael You’re descending into antisemitism as we speak. You should do something about that before you’re completely lost.
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@N_na_nG @rhovanielle @bilbosfootcomb Are you actually suggesting child sacrifice has appeared anywhere in the Christian church since it began? Indo European history doesn’t count for much because a) there’s little written history for most of it and b) language aside Ireland was not Greece and it wasnt india
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@woscasfrench @rhovanielle @bilbosfootcomb Because there's almost no evidence of it in indo-european culture. The only unequivocal example of child sacrifice I'm aware of was by Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter to secure a favourable tide when launching the trojan war.
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There is a similar situation in Irish paganism. Crom Cruach “The Crooked One” predates the entirety of the Irish pagan pantheon and the church had to fight way harder and way longer to stop people worshipping him than they did for any pagan “deity”

abcdent@abcdentminded
I'm a fan of the Hindu creepypasta god who predates the entire religion, looks nothing like any other member of the pantheon, and whose name translates to "Lord of the Universe"
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@Nxh63879923 @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded But an apocalypse was nigh. The Jewish people Jesus preached to were soon to have a failed revolt against the Romans that would be brutally supressed with mass crucifixions and the Jews being exiled from Israel and their temple destroyed
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@woscasfrench @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded u don’t even follow his actual message u bot.
jesus preached apocalypse was nigh. paul reinterpreted everything, a partially self derived theology, made it palatable to rome. the ppl who actually knew jesus were not aligned with paul’s version (a guy who never met jesus)
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael Another thing I don’t like about Israelis is how disingenuous they are, everyone is an anti semite who is wishing for another holocaust, but with this recent rise in actual 1940s antisemitism from Trumps base they don’t have anything to say
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael Yes yes, they were just trying to make themselves safe, they had no intention of expanding their territory, if they had any choice in the matter they wouldn’t have done and have given the land back. They’ll just have to keep defending themselves all the way to the Euphrates 😢
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@rhovanielle @bilbosfootcomb Why do you immediately assume the story is false? Child sacrifice was practised in other parts of the world
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@bilbosfootcomb Wow, impiety justified by projecting a form of child sacrifice originally offered to YHWH onto Irish gods, how brave
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@Lambda_backlash @variable_leads @godspeed_aflame Your point was certainly not that there existed consistent theories that were complete
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Yes. Presburger and Skolem arithmetic are complete, consistent, and not sufficiently expressive to trigger Gödel. That's the point. The theorem doesn't apply to every system — only those that can encode enough arithmetic. You've just agreed with me while trying to dunk. Thank you for the assist
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@Lambda_backlash @variable_leads @godspeed_aflame Allow me to blow your little mind: Presburger arithmetic, skolem arithmetic
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@variable_leads @godspeed_aflame Compelling. And by compelling, I mean completely useless. Point to the specific claim. Explain why. Use small words if you have to.
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@Nxh63879923 @ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded He didn’t just die, he died horribly, and the fear of it caused all his followers to scatter. You wonder what must have been so great about his message that people risked torture and death for it for 300 years to convince the Roman Empire to finally convert
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@ConnorTraynor3 @Churan_Wala @srinibash_samal @abcdentminded where is god’s kingdom? supposed to arrive in his generation but obviously it didn’t because he was a liar and so your little christian buddies got together and said “how can we save this… he died and nothing happened” and they fabricated everything with ad hoc reinterpretation
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael It has been state policy to encroach on land that isn’t theirs - how do you think they ended up in Syria? This is what AI had to say about the ‘majority’ of land:

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@woscasfrench @chalavyishmael Regardless, there have been instances of Israelis encroaching on land that isn’t theirs, and sometimes that has been dealt with by the Israeli authorities and sometimes it hasn’t, but where you get “majority” in your claim, only you know.
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@iain_mk2 @chalavyishmael No. No territory was given by the UN partition. Land seizures were forbidden. All the partition said was what government should be governing the various plots. But are you agreeing that any land beyond the un partition that is now Israel was illegally acquired?
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