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The Wrong Kennedy

@wrong_kennedy

Wearily fact checking since 2013. Also at @ https://t.co/eyiq74q4t6

Katılım Şubat 2013
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
One of the most vicious lies the police told about Hillsborough was that Liverpool fans deliberately burnt a police horse with cigarettes. It was covered widely in the media after the disaster. But it was a complete lie & it was confirmed today that the officer involved, PC David Scott, would have had a case to answer for gross misconduct, had he still been serving. .
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Tony Evans
Tony Evans@TonyEvans92a·
I've noticed a pattern. Stupid racists hate Scousers. I have no regard for IQ but the dumbest people I've met are bigots. One last observation: most Evertonians come from the same political perspective as Liverpudlians. They are inclusive and despise people like @LucyTCWife
Lucy Connolly@LucyTCWife

I have noticed a pattern. Most abuse I get on here is from Liverpool supporters. Now I’m not saying that all Liverpool supporters have a low IQ 👀 but I have definitely noticed a correlation between Liverpool fans and their ability to engage their brain. Funnily enough the most horrendous people I met in the slammer were Liverpool supporters too, and indeed scouse. 🙈🙈 Up the fucking Toffees 💙

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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
Ticketless fans were specifically found *not * to be a cause of the Hillsborough disaster by the 2016 inquest jury and by the 1989 Taylor Inquiry Forensic analysis in 1989 and 2013 proved that there were fewer fans on the terraces than tickets sold, so ticketless fans can’t have been a factor Have a read of the facts in thread below
Kev Whitt@WhittKev

@ExtremeFootbal4 Ticketless fans were responsible for Hillsborough

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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
It’s true that the problem was distribution across the pens, with no way to spread out You can see it in this photo - hugely overcrowded central pens but bare concrete can be seen on the outer pens SWFC were supposed to have put dividing walls in the concourse and matched specific turnstiles to specific pens, but didn’t get around to finishing the job (one of the reasons why there was no valid safety certificate) Instead, they relied on police directing fans to the side pens - which they somehow forgot to do on 15/4/89
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Kev Whitt
Kev Whitt@WhittKev·
@wrong_kennedy @ExtremeFootbal4 But they didn’t go through the correct turnstiles meaning too many fans in one pen with no way to escape at the front because the side gates were closed
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The Extreme Football Enthusiast
The Extreme Football Enthusiast@ExtremeFootbal4·
Flashback to the time when a fan without a ticket perilously climbed into Wembley Stadium to watch the 1986 FA Cup Final between Liverpool and Everton.
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Carl Smith
Carl Smith@Stanchion5ER·
@wrong_kennedy Anyone who has stood on that terrace knows it was a disaster waiting to happen,how we got away with it in 87 is a miracle, and there wasn't a single ticketless fan on there that day
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
Thanks for your support All the evidence was that there were no more ticketless fans than at any other big match during the era. The reason for the crowd build up outside was that extraordinarily only 7 turnstiles were allocated for 10,100 fans and they were never going to cope This made a dangerous overcrowding outside the Leppings Lane, in notorious bottleneck, inevitable
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy

The outside of the Leppings Lane was clogged up not because of ticketless fans, but for two key reasons. First, it was a notorious bottleneck. 17,000+ fans had to pass through this narrow opening marked by the yellow circle

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HasToBeWitty,Non?
HasToBeWitty,Non?@osnasf365·
@wrong_kennedy I still have to deal with this narrative from fellow arsenal fans, the Taylor report was clear in that there were possibly ticketless fans but the numbers would not have caused or been a factor for the crush that occured solely due to the opening of gate c.
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
Just a fact check on that: 1. It’s been proven time and time again that ticketless fans played no role in the Hillsborough disaster 2. No one forced the gates - CCTV clearly shows that the exit gates were opened by club stewards, which was at police direction. 3. South Yorkshire Police admitted in a press conference on the evening of the disaster that the gates were opened by club stewards, at their request. 4. The original lie by the match commander that the gates were forced is today only still repeated by ignorant morons. He has repeatedly apologised for it. 5. The Inquest jury in 2016 specifically found that fans did not cause the disaster. That finding was unanimous.
mick clarkson@clarkson10166

@ExtremeFootbal4 Probably one of the several thousand without tickets that forced the gates open on that fateful day in Sheffield a couple of years later

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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
@HistMatters2020 I won’t change his mind but 233 people so far have seen me challenge him with the facts. 160k people so far have viewed the thread setting out why he and others like him are wrong Just don’t want the lies to be normalised again
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Losurdo's High Press
Losurdo's High Press@HistMatters2020·
@wrong_kennedy Don't rise to it, mate. One look at the cesspit of a timeline tells you that this person is a scumbag.
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
There’s no evidence of more than a handful of ticketless fans at Hillsborough It’s been proven time and time again in court that ticketless fans can’t have been a factor in the Hillsborough disaster as there were fewer fans on the terraces that ticket sales Have a read of analysis that proved this
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy

10,100 tickets were sold for Liverpool’s terraces The HSE estimate in 1989 was that in total 9,974 fans entered the Leppings Lane The 2013 engineer’s report counted 10,044 fans So *both* exercises found there were *fewer* fans on the terraces than the number of tickets sold

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Edward
Edward@QueedFed·
@ExtremeFootbal4 Yet Hillsborough was 100% on the police and no fault of their own 🤦🤦🤦 4000 ticketless Scousers just fell out of the sky and landed in the lepping lane end
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
Lots of people making Hillsborough digs in the comments. Here’s a few facts: 1. It’s been proven time and time again in court that ticketless fans played no role in causing the Hillsborough disaster. 2. There were in fact fewer fans standing on the Leppings Lane terraces in 1989 than ticket sold. Two exhaustive forensic exercises in 1989 and again in 2014 counted fan volumes. See below if you want to see the details of those exercises 3. The inquest jury in 2016 specifically found that fans did not cause the Hillsborough disaster, nor even contribute to causing it. That finding was unanimous 4. South Yorkshire Police and the National Police Chiefs Council have repeatedly apologised for causing the disaster, and wrongly blaming fans 5. A small number of fans (<100) did bunk in at the 1986 all Merseyside FA cup final (where the footage was from) as was common for all clubs at big games in that era. However, with 100k fans travelling mainly from Merseyside that day, there were only a handful of arrests, and fan behaviour was praised.
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy

10,100 tickets were sold for Liverpool’s terraces The HSE estimate in 1989 was that in total 9,974 fans entered the Leppings Lane The 2013 engineer’s report counted 10,044 fans So *both* exercises found there were *fewer* fans on the terraces than the number of tickets sold

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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
@ChrisThoma11362 @Avon101Kerr @ExtremeFootbal4 The inquest jury know what happened at Hillsborough because they heard two years of evidence and specifically found that fans did not cause the disaster nor contribute to it. That finding was unanimous Happy to help
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Chris Thomas
Chris Thomas@ChrisThoma11362·
@Avon101Kerr @ExtremeFootbal4 Both sets of fans did the same on that day. As always never your fault is it! Real football fans know what happened at Hillsboro!!!!
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
1. Fans didn’t storm into Hillsborough; they walked in after the gates were opened at police direction. 2. It’s been proven time and time again in court that ticketless fans can’t have been a factor in the disaster as there were fewer fans on the terraces that ticket sales 3. A handful of people of people did bunk into Wembley in 1986, as fans of all clubs did in that era. However, with around 100k fans travelling from Merseyside that day, there were only a handful of arrests, and fans were praised for their behaviour that day
Steven@CrookNuggetGang

@ExtremeFootbal4 Just like they stormed into Hillsborough and pretty much any other Semi-final - ticketless bin dipper fucks

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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
It’s the 2016 inquest jury that specifically found that LFC fans were not to blame, after hearing two years of evidence That jury finding was unanimous. South Yorkshire Police and the National Police Chiefs Council have also accepted that fans were not to blame & apologised for
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The Wrong Kennedy
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy·
If you were actually concerned about the truth of the matter, you can read about how it was found that ticketless fans weren’t a factor in the disaster here:
The Wrong Kennedy@wrong_kennedy

10,100 tickets were sold for Liverpool’s terraces The HSE estimate in 1989 was that in total 9,974 fans entered the Leppings Lane The 2013 engineer’s report counted 10,044 fans So *both* exercises found there were *fewer* fans on the terraces than the number of tickets sold

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