Wxbum83

Jesus asked Peter to tend and feed his sheep. Jesus said and on this rock I will build my church. Probably should have reverse ordered those two. Paul brings the issue of circumcision to Peter. Yes he corrects him but why do that if he didn't see him as "the guy?" Doesn't make sense.

I appreciate the kind words. And I agree Christ did not leave His people without order or witnesses. But that still does not establish the Roman papacy. Acts 1 shows Judas’ vacant apostleship was filled. It does not say Peter became Bishop of Rome, that his office would pass through an unbroken Roman line, or that one bishop would rule over the whole assembly. And binding and loosing was not Peter alone in Matt. 18:18. So I am not rejecting apostolic teaching. I am asking for the doctrine itself to be shown from Scripture. Where do the apostles actually teach the Bishop of Rome, papal supremacy, and a perpetual Petrine office?

Gee, what happened to the Bee?

@NASA_Tim @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec Please enlighten me on my blasphemy Since you're worried about the speck in my eye and the fucking gigantic plank in yours

@wxbum83 @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec Blasphemy is even more fun apparently

This is only funny if you have a Jack Chick or worse understanding of Catholicism. Every Catholic priest has to read several hundred Bible verses every day between breviary & Mass, plus most read more than required. Pope Leo XIV has done this every day since 1977 when he entered the Augustinian novitiate.

So Iscariot is replaced by the apostles. They established apostolic succession and teach apostolic tradition and yet succession is not there? Jesus came, put people in charge of spreading the Good Word and just figured it would take care of itself? I am sure you are well studied and a good person and I am happy for you on that. But it's clear Jesus put people in charge of His Church and gave them authority to forgive and retain sins and established the Petrine office with loosing and binding powers. Why do that for just their lifespans and leave it to each person to establish their own understanding? Sorry it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll have some sort of response that may appear reasonable, but it's just not gonna make sense. It's not a choice of Pope or no Pope it's Pope or you Pope.

I know the same way anyone knows what a word means: lexical range plus context. Paradosis means what is handed down. Here Paul makes the source plain: the teaching they received from the apostles themselves, whether by word or by letter. That makes sense, because many assemblies did not have personal copies of the writings, and many believers first received the good message by hearing it spoken before any letter reached them. So Paul is referring to apostolic teaching delivered directly to them, not to whatever Rome later claims.

@NASA_Tim @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec Calumny is fun isn't it?

Not the Angels. I am sure there are saints that you pray to with those names. It’s no different than Poseidon being the god of the sea, having Saint Anthony be the patron saint of travelers etc etc. You make these people into little gods, and you pray to them and worship them. It is sinful and wrong, and directly contradicted by the Bible.

@Sigeberht166028 @Truth_matters20 @catholicpat I think he would turn over in his grave if he saw what he caused

The term protestant refers to those of Lutheran persuasion and some German Free Towns who protested was the 1529 Diet of Speyer’s decision to revive and enforce the Edict of Worms 1521. The congregation pictured in the OP, is Lutheran in name only. Martin Luther would turn in his grave at that, as Moderate and Liberal as can be with no regard for the Scriptures.

Protestants: The pope's statements sure make me glad to be Protestant! Meanwhile, Protestantism:

@NASA_Tim @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec So you think Saint Michael and Saint Gabriel are people?

You have all the different “special“ saints that have each have an area of expertise. That’s exactly the same thing as the old Greek mythology about the God of the Sea and the god of the sky and the god of the sun and all those sorts of things. Saint Anthony is this one and Saint Michael’s that one and Saint Gabriel is another one and blah blah blah blah blah. It’s polytheism. You pray to these dead people instead of to God directly, which is what we were instructed to do in the scripture.

How do you know it means that? If there are traditions that were passed on and they aren't written in scripture, you reject them? Even though scripture is clear, there are traditions that we are told fast too that are not in scripture. Judas was replaced. That is succession of Iscariot's office or role if you'd prefer. There was even expansion beyond the 12 with Paul. Paul mentions Linus (the second pope) in 2 timothy 4.

@wxbum83 @dondacamara @OwenShroyer1776 2 Thess 2:15 means hold fast to apostolic teaching given by the apostles, whether spoken or written. It does not mean ‘whatever Rome later says.’ Show the Bishop of Rome, papal supremacy, and papal succession from Scripture. Where do the apostles teach that?

If it is to survive for the next 2 to 3 years? "The Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine — but for unbelievers a proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight." Hilaire Belloc Calm down everyone.

If the Catholic Church is to survive even the next 2-3 years, the Vatican needs to do whatever is necessary to replace this Pope as soon as possible before he does any more damage. The things he is coming out with are as if he’s never read the bible. It’s like he’s walking around with a Quran and a Marxism handbook with him

@JohnnyFreeze92 @dondacamara @OwenShroyer1776 Awkward...

Thank you, the Acts 17:3 context actually proves my point. Paul was showing them from the Scriptures that the Christ had to suffer and rise. And the Bereans were noble because they checked the Scriptures daily to see whether those claims were so (or other any claim, hence - "daily"). So yes, claims are to be tested by Scripture, not just asserted by tradition.

@Sigeberht166028 @Truth_matters20 @catholicpat You do know where the term comes from right?

@Truth_matters20 @catholicpat Aye, that is not protestant. Anabaptist maybe (not to be confused with Baptist), but not protestant. But more likely a modernist, liberal assembly. Which faction also exists in the Catholic Church, viz. the incumbent pope.

@NASA_Tim @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec So do you pray on behalf of friends and family? In other words, Intercede. Explain your polytheism claim because it's ignorant.

@wxbum83 @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec There’s absolutely no difference between the word mediator and intercessor. It doesn’t matter who the queen was in David’s kingdom, Mary is not the queen of heaven, nor is she described as such anywhere in scripture. Catholicism is simply polytheism with extra steps

@JohnnyFreeze92 @dondacamara @OwenShroyer1776 What claims were being addressed in Acts 17:11? Maybe start at verse three.

@dondacamara @OwenShroyer1776 I don’t use the Trinity label either. I use the words Scripture uses. But you still changed the subject. The question is where Scripture teaches a pope, papal succession, supremacy over the whole assembly, and Rome. Acts 17:11 shows us we are to check the scriptures on claims.

@FrMatthewLC The bee doesn't like Catholics and they mask it with humor

@WeedSnob420 @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec I think you have your framing all wrong. You should still support him by praying for him to correct his error. You are right on money but not on motive. Sent with brotherly love. God bless.

I have been a Catholics all my life. I still support Trump. How many Catholics like me no longer support the Pope? I will not put any more money in the collection basket until we get a new Pope. If everyone did the same, this Pope would sing a different song. These politician popes are all about the money so they can live in luxury.

@NASA_Tim @FrMatthewLC @JackPosobiec What's the difference between mediator and intercessor. Do you pray on behalf of your friends? Who served as the Queen in the David Kingdom? 1 corinthians 4:15. John 6:53. + Matt. 7:3-5 Don't be a douche

You might read it, but you sure as heck don’t follow it. There’s one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. Why then do you pray to Mary and the other saints? Call no man on earth your father, for one is your Father in heaven. And yet all priests are called “father“. I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me. Or maybe instead of believing Jesus, you believe the pope who said that Muslims are going to heaven.

Pope Leo grew up in Chicago. I grew up in Lebanon. I wasn't forced to leave Lebanon because there was peaceful coexistence. I was forced to leave Lebanon because Islamic terrorists blew up my home and killed many of the people I grew up with. I wish the Pope would talk to the persecuted Lebanese before making ignorant statements about countries he knows very little about.

@catholicbob @ShotClockTodd @RedPilled_USA Make a claim; provide your evidence. Don't ignore the attacks on our service members in the region. Define most immigrants? Define immigrant? People who are here illegally are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens. They did not follow our laws. Don't conflate your terms.

@ShotClockTodd @RedPilled_USA Iran isn’t a threat nor are most immigrants. Those that are should still be treated with dignity.

I was today years old when I learned there is a heresy called “Americanism”. It was declared by Pope Leo XIII (coincidence?) in 1899. It’s characterized by basically putting your own conscience above the Church. From the left it might include support for abortion or same-sex marriage, but it seems like we’re starting to see a manifestation of it from the political right in questioning the Pope’s authority to comment on American involvement in wars or immigration policies. We’re even seeing questions about the legitimacy of this Pope. If your first (or even second) instinct on hearing the Pope calling for peace was to assume it was an attack on Trump, or worse, to attack the Pope, you need to examine your conscience. We are Catholic Americans, not American Catholics. Our first duty is to the Church, not our national government.

@RealSpitfire Not how that works lady.

The current Pope is a political hack. I say this as a Catholic. Not my Pope.

@Light695901971 @bravoCo104498 @Jeremiahhorton_ @JackPosobiec You sure can clear them from Europe. This isn't the first time they tried to take it.

@bravoCo104498 @Jeremiahhorton_ @JackPosobiec If your media feed wasn't an echo chamber you would have heard him saying that the emigration of youth from Cameroon was problematic. Fact is, you are not clearing 50 million Muslims from Europe. Europe decided to be secular and this is it's price.

Pope Leo: “In Europe, fears are present but often generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race. I would say that we all need to work together."