xander
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GM Zero’s review of the Odyssey
Rating: 10/10
Favourite Quote: “Then I defy the gods”
A famous director once said “50% of the movie is in the script”.
That is not the case with the Odyssey.
Describing it as a movie feels a bit too generic; it’s an “epic” and it lives up to its name in a visual adaptation.
I would describe the Odyssey as an atmospheric experience.
A journey, a rollercoaster, a showcase of Odysseus’ life.
That’s what this movie is about.
I can go into details about acting, metaphors, and characters,
But I think everyone should see this movie atleast once in their life.
“I defy the gods”.

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@ChipActual They want to brainwash our youth, trans them, turn them gay, abort our children in the womb, and let gay perverts buy children. You should care very much.
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@TIG_Ronin Should black panther be played by a white man? Would that be out of place?
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@BeelMoBeel14 @Duhlorean98 Ah there's the trademark jewish silver lying tongue. Always lying, always.
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@x9741074 @Duhlorean98 I never said you were genocidal you're just an irrelevant pathetic loser and you're going to die unhappy.

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@x9741074 @Danimalish I hope you suffer the same fate as Phineus
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@MoviesThatMaher The Chuds aren't going anywhere. The real haters of Greek culture are Nolan and Emily Wilson ( her terrible fake translation )
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Audiences have spoken giving ChristopherNolan’s #TheOdyssey an A Cinemascore.
Those haters are getting awfully quiet.

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@thedev1ldroid Nolan and Emily Wilson are the real racists that desecrated Greek culture. You're projecting harder than the 70MM IMAX units on full blast.
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@BeelMoBeel14 @Duhlorean98 I'm not genocidal, I just want your kind deported to a nice peaceful island where you can't spread your destructive urges to everything.
However... if we're gone you'll be stuck with blacks, browns, and angry inbred muslims. Rowdy bunch, going to be difficult to police them all.
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@x9741074 @Duhlorean98 The world will be better off when you are replaced by dust
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Every single complaint about Nolan's Odyssey can be traced back to this godawful translation that he used.
It somehow manages to create an entirely different Odysseus than the one that Homer wrote (because Emily Wilson hates masculinity), and completely derails Matt Damon's character in the film.

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If some nobody had come out of the blue and made a big dumb Odyssey movie with all the same subversions, I might go see that, just for fun.
But when Nolan makes it, it is notable, normative, has the imprimatur of the Oscars, “this is how films ought to be made” - no way, nix it
George Alexopoulos@GPrime85
Nolan's Odyssey is the film equivalent of the covid vax. If everyone takes it, and singles you out as the only one who hasn't, if you still say "I refuse to put that shit in my body," you pass the test.
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@Notabot1185810 America is not a democracy, it is a republic.
This movie is a pile of shit, and you are a disingenuous fuck.
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You shouldn't go to The Odyssey and expect that you're going to get a direct and accurate presentation of the poem – it isn't a rendering of the original work. It's taking the story and using it to explore a number of themes that are more relevant to the modern epoch than the ancient one, to the point where some of the core themes of the Odyssey are discarded. Anyone who wants to see a faithful presentation of the original - and essential - epic poem should understand that this is not an attempt to present that.
But what is presented still has a great deal of merit. It's so colored by judeo-christian morality that it's almost reminiscent of the reconstruction of Norse mythology by christians to reflect their sensibilities. It takes a deeply critical view of war and its glorification – which is not wholly incompatible with the Iliad's and the Odyssey's themes. But even beyond the commentary on war directly, war itself becomes a representation of a broader loss of decency and virtue, without which human civilization cannot stand.
The Greek gods are absent Nolan's version of the Odyssey - one thing that struck me was Calypso's borderline agnostic reference to Zeus as a sort of monotheistic God both distant and simultaneously enmeshed in every process of reality. But human beings are on their own – if we don't abide by "Zeus's law" (at one point summarized by Odysseus as "treating others the way you want be treated," an obvious reference to "due unto others as you would have them do unto you") we will succumb to barbarism and civilization will fail.
I, uh, don't think that's the point of the original Odyssey. But it's a very good theme nonetheless.
It's kind of appropriate that you have Greeks in Nolan's Odyssey worrying about the sea peoples – the sea peoples were in part Greeks whose societies had collapsed. Maybe the idea is that we are potentially our own enemy – we're always a few steps from becoming the barbarians at our own gate. Like Lincoln said of American democracy, "as a nation of Freeman, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." Once you rest an agreement upon a premise, you must hold that premise. Human civilization is an agreement – a treaty.
The theme connects to Nolan's decision to treat the voyage home itself as a sort of combination ordeal/purification process, whereby Odysseus ultimately can't return home easily not so much because of Polyphemus's curse, or giants, or sea monsters, but because you cannot take part in war – when the treaty between men is broken – and come back to civilization easily.
The decision by his men to slaughter the cattle seems almost like symbolic decision by them to give up. People who return from war don't always make it.
If you want people to understand the Odyssey, they need to read it, or at least find a more faithful production. And no, I wouldn't recommend the translation Nolan reportedly relied upon. But Nolan's The Odyssey is an excellent film, evocative, thought-provoking, emotional, and frankly, has a Chestertonian conservative quality, and I think the themes in it are profoundly interrelated and well-presented. I highly endorse it.
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@heroesahead The gaslighting wars have begun yet again. Same playbook as Ghostbusters 2016.
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@ejpreston You're a disgusting shill. This subversive pile of anti-white propaganda is designed to make us think we don't deserve our own history and culture.
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Don't wait for streaming, and if you're even remotely near IMAX 70mm make sure to buy tickets for that screen in particular - Nolan's The Odyssey is the best motion picture adaptation of Homer ever made, especially thematically. Does that mean it's perfect? No of course not, but it's still the best thus far and sets a new bar.
Let's make sure to mention some of the negatives : a few lines of dialogue are washed out by sfx and score in action-heavy moments, a pivotal factor in the encounter with Polyphemus is cut (but there's a mega strong hint that it was shot, so maybe in a director's cut), and Damon legit isn't in his very top form, though he has a few notable moments.
To the casting issues some have been screeching about for weeks? You're not going to believe this but it doesn't distract one bit and, if you're savvy to symbolism (especially at a meta level), then the unconventional couple of cast members actually enhance the experience.
And to the reactionaries otherwise? You're your own worst enemy - all over truly less than 5% of screen time at most, and that's being generous. Repent and buy a ticket.
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"It’s The Odyssey."
–– Jonathan Pageau

Jonathan Pageau@PageauJonathan
The Odyssey is Christopher Nolan's Trick (full video)
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