XBAB Tech

Hello everyone, we’re XBAB Tech. We’re preparing to launch first product: the XA25, the lightest full-size gaming mouse on market (25g) We’ll share prototypes, testing, specs, and updates here. Follow us and join Discord for early access and behind-the-scenes development.

@iEdyy yes but not immediately

@xbabtech Any chance of a modkit for sale of it? The size and weight of the internals look really appealing for it

You’ve seen how the XA25 comes together. Here’s where the weight goes. 9 parts. 24.94 g total (~25±1g). In future posts, we'll share tidbits of the engineering and weight optimization that go into these components.

@player1129949 when we're sure it can be done to our standards. maybe next year.

@xbabtech 8k wireless when?

@UhhErix what scenario should we test? drop on concrete?

@xbabtech W feat of engineering. I know some people asked before but drop test happening for it?

@Pasta31436520 Definitely something we'll consider once production goes smoothly!

@xbabtech please also sell just the pcb for the community to be able to make mod kits <3 pmm and gabe mouse mods would do amazing work with these! super excited to try the XA25 !

How do you fit an entire gaming mouse into just 25 grams? Like this. 🤫

For the cleanest data, we also made standalone loggers for Linux and Windows. Grab from GitHub Releases: github.com/XBAB-Tech/Mous… Single-file executables, no install. They save CSVs, or HTML reports with the data embedded. Send someone a report and they can open it and explore the interactive plot themselves, instead of passing screenshots. So far in testing on our computers, the Windows standalone app has less timing jitter than MouseTester. Give it a try and let us know what you find!

We needed MouseTester on Linux. It didn't exist, so we built MousePlotter: an in-browser app to record raw mouse data. Free & open source. Try it out at mouseplotter.xbabtech.com. 8k mice work nicely with Chrome/Edge on Windows and Linux (on macOS, use Safari). Fully interactive plot powered by uPlot. All the key info displayed together: motion counts, velocity, and timing. Just like microe1's MouseTester, you can use MousePlotter to: • Analyze mouse motion counts, to check signatures of sensor framerate, smoothing, Motion Sync, etc • Check max tracking speed (rarely needed for modern mice) • Evaluate impact of OS and BIOS settings on mouse data timing • With consistent timing, you can even detect a single dropped report on 8k mice. • Import and export CSVs, fully compatible with MouseTester Source here: github.com/XBAB-Tech/Mous…

@nsdeezy @anders_4k yep!

@anders_4k @xbabtech are these lines just for design?

My potential dream mouse. The XA25 from @xbabtech . Egg shaped with flat sides, wired 8kHz, and 25 grams. So excited to work with them and give feedback on the prototype!

@Clar3nce_CS @anders_4k lower weight by a few grams, no battery life to worry about, marginally lower latency, and no risk of interference with other wireless devices.

@anders_4k @xbabtech Any reason for the wired over wireless at all ?

@bagged_nismo @anders_4k yep, no sharp edges near ring finger.

@anders_4k @xbabtech This shape actually looks similar to my work mouse. And it’s kinda goated for 1-3-1 grip lmao

@AlexFrost_46 initially we'll sell just the mouse but keep some stock of parts for warranty/repairs

@xbabtech Thats insane, do you sell separate parts of the mouse? Maybe for like when a customers mouse have 1 broken part.

@HM204DTA working on it. it's not easy to do such measurements with the precision and accuracy needed to differentiate closely performing mice.

@xbabtech When will we receive the motion latency test results, alongside side-by-side comparisons against competing mice?

@HM204DTA They are exactly the same feel and texture.

@xbabtech Just tell me which surface offers the best anti-slip performance.

We have received some interest in the undyed shell and would like to know which version you prefer. 👀 Cast your vote below!

@ballsc0nsumer77 The black dye does not affect the surface finish at all. These are both uncoated.

@xbabtech how does the coating compare between the 2?

A few comparison pics to help you decide.

@TsuihaJP thanks, it would be help to know your results. The important criteria is that the NC contact does not lose contact for more than ~100us, continuously, when finger pressure is applied without a physical click. If your oscilloscope has a pulse trigger, that's useful to detect this

@xbabtech only three of each, the sample size isn't large enough and same lot. It's also possible that using sockets had an impact. I will tests with an increased samples and solder tests. Since you're using them, I'd also like to re-evaluate the Sword switches.thx

割とhuanoはクリック耐久強いモデルのスイッチほどNCコンタクト性良好な傾向ある気がする kailhはgx以外大体NOのチャタリング性能に特化してる印象

@TsuihaJP How many switches did you test? Maybe it's bin-to-bin variation but most (at least 80%) of my Swords have good NC contacts. For the rest, but I'm not sure if it's due to the switch or due to my hand soldering overheating the switch.

@xbabtech I previously a quick test with an oscillo, the Huano TBSPD and Kailh GM9.0 seemed to have good NC contact. At the time, I didn't have a very good impression of the Sword Switch, but I guess I was wrong? Could you tell me why you chose the Sword Switch?