ymdr
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@berenislaw @Grrted @RayshawnGuy 让可靠的策略变得不可靠是什么游戏理解?如果你要让游戏的随机性变大不是应该增加事假,改变卡牌的数值吗,通过限制删牌来让那个游戏增加难度是有什么疾病吗?我无法理解他的思维?如果制作人限制玩家的玩法,固执的要求玩家按照他们的设计进行游戏,我觉得这是对于玩家的不尊重,每个人都有自己的玩法
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@Rodrigues_520 @ZhugeEX 不,这就是游戏质量的问题,大量的负面评价都是在游戏产生改动之后产生的,因为中国玩家真的花了大量时间去体验游戏内容,如果他们的游戏反馈得不到重视,那对于商品打上差评是合理的,你不能只在赚钱的时候说好,在别人差评的时候说不。
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@ZhugeEX Which is weird because is not the game's fault, right?
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The fundamental difference here, beyond different player preferences, is that Discord and Steam Community features are blocked in China, which means user reviews function as a primary feedback mechanism, rather than purely as purchase guidance as seen in Western markets.
Garret@Grrted
This is insane
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@hybriiss @ZhugeEX @silence22142 如果是建议移出中文评论的话,我会建议直接锁中国服务器,干脆不要卖给中国玩家,这样你们能得到更多的正面评论,你不能只在赚钱的时候说好,而在别人投诉的时候说这不礼貌。
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@ZhugeEX @silence22142 As much as I've seen this happen recently, I think steam should remove Chinese reviews from the aggregate. This is not the place for this type of feedback, normalized or not.
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@away_throw3704 @NeonIain 不经过了解就发表无知的言论,你真的很好笑,没有人在意什么无限,只是游戏做的很烂,反馈又得不到回应而已,你们这些人根本没有为这个游戏付出多少时间的人,却单纯的以为中国玩家是惧怕难度,自以为是的样子真的很蠢。
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@NeonIain Devs patched braindead infinite starts
Chinese mad because they have to play the game now and cant easily win dick measuring contests
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Steam literally had to change how reviews are displayed due to the relentless negativity of swathes of Chinese players.
It breaks my heart because Chinese games whose main audience is China just get brutally hammered by their local audience which makes it so much harder for Chinese devs to compete globally.
Its just so sad and is really having negative consequences across the board for Chinese gamers and Chinese developers alike.
Ive heard a lot of theories from Chinese friends and developers about why this has happened, its a fascinating subject.
Garret@Grrted
This is insane
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@Offsides88 @NeonIain 如果你花了大量时间去玩的游戏,做了很差的改动,而你的反馈却一直得不到重视,我想你也会对他有负面评论,这是普通人的正常想法。
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@berenislaw @Grrted @RayshawnGuy 实际上slay the spire 1的boss并有没有那么严厉,你不毕从开始就为了应对他做出偏向,而2的数值平衡做不是很好,类似猎人的弃牌玩法,现在就很难实现,这些卡牌的意义就变得多余,商店的删卡也变昂贵,这让大家在应对诅咒和塞给你烂牌的情况也很窘迫,而大家只是在说A10就应该很难,但不考虑是否合理。
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@ymdr03890641 @Grrted @RayshawnGuy Bro this is literally what slay the spire 1 had with the time eater - if you had a good run, you had to play around your boss being the time eater
+ Balance is a debatable thing as A10 is supposed to be really hard
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@Ripw0lf14 @berenislaw @Grrted @RayshawnGuy 我想说你根本没有认真的去了解这些评论,只是看到一些片段然后就觉得评论都是负面的,实际上他们提出来很多意见,但是无论是评论反馈还是f2反馈,都没有人在意,而像你这样的人只会以为中国玩家只是想进行简单的无限,想进行简单的游戏,实际他们的游戏时间,游戏理解都比你多,而你只是傲慢又无知。
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@berenislaw @ymdr03890641 @Grrted @RayshawnGuy I mean if you look at the reviews, only the chinese ones are mostly negative, negative, the other countries are very positive or overwhelming positive. Yeah like they wanted to keep something broken in the game + everyone going infinite it's not fun at all lol.
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@berenislaw @ymdr03890641 @Grrted @RayshawnGuy it's a waste of time to argue with this people brother because no matter what you say this people will always be right lol.
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@silvercoin105 @mauthe_doog >buy game
>launch game for a few minutes
>close game
>submit review
>refund game
Not hard to do, especially for affordable indie games.
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Reminder that it was Chinese review bombs that caused Steam to add the extra information about reviews in the first place.
Garret@Grrted
This is insane
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@NitroStarman @silvercoin105 @mauthe_doog 这里是游戏时间一百小时以上的评论,中文评论有一万七千多条,而英语评论只有四千,我不知道你是怎么得到中国玩家只是购买游戏然后启动完成就退款的结论。


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@Ripw0lf14 @Grrted @RayshawnGuy 我并没有说所有人,可能是你的翻译有问题,你为什么认为中国玩家没有进行反馈和讨论呢,只是你自己错误的认知而已,如果中国玩家的反馈得不到重视,对游戏打出差评是不可以理解的事情吗?你们是否对于中国玩家太苛刻?收起你的偏见吧,这使你变得傲慢且无知
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@ymdr03890641 @Grrted @RayshawnGuy who is "everyone", only the chinese people are unhappy. Instead of sending a feedback to the devs or talking about what makes you guys unhappy.. you guys go and review bombed an indie game, congrats.
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@Gloglocito_ @Valorie_Palorie @Grrted 并不是那样,中国玩家对无限的依赖没有那么高,这不是玩家差评的关键,真正的原因是卡牌平衡变得差劲,游戏怪物数值不平衡,限制玩家的玩法套路,以及对中国玩家的游戏反馈不重视,实际情况是其他国家所有玩家的平均游戏时长,没有中国玩家一半高,他们付出更多的时间,但是意见却得不到重视。
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@Valorie_Palorie @Grrted Chinese players have this meta regarding Short decks in order to get Infinite combos to cheese the game
The devs nerfing those infinite decks ruin their weird meta which leads to Review bombing
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@Grrted @RayshawnGuy 中国人对于无限被削弱,其实反应不大,因为每一局游戏能做出无限的概率不高,他们真正有意见的是,游戏卡牌平衡和游戏数值变的很烂,制作人限制他们对于游戏的玩法,你必须要为应对门扉做出卡牌妥协,这种控制玩家套路的改动让大家很不爽,但是中国玩家的反馈得不到回应,所以产生了大量差评
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@pp9072704 我只想说门现在的强度大于心脏,一代打心脏都没这么流汗过,现在很多人差评的原因也在于你前面蠕动一整把,到boss门口,门扉一上来三轮给安排的明明白白,好不容易蠕动过门扉,出来可能血量一半都没有,然后后面还有个女皇,谁玩谁都要气笑了。
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@pp9072704 国内这情况也不是一天两天了,习惯了,但是按安东尼现在的更新状态,我觉得更难听的还在后面,大部分人是能接受为boss做出一些卡组调整,但是你不能说整套卡组都是为了某个boss做针对,那样玩的就会很难受,而且最新测试服好像高进阶又加强了怪物数值,我也不懂这个平衡是怎么衡量的。
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