I didn’t think this would stimulate as much conversation as it did. Most people are okay with waiting 10-15 minutes for 10-20% charge because it gives them a chance to grab food, use the bathroom, etc. Does Supercharging need to be as fast as pumping gas?

Supercharging basically happens on road trips. You just drove for 3-3.5 hours. By the time you go to the bathroom and grab a snack and stretch it’s been 15 minutes anyway. The car has already told you it has enough energy to go to the next 3 hour stop but by the time you pick new music it’s been 20 minutes. Charge time was not the limiting factor.

@Teslarati After hour 5 of a road trip I don’t want to stop longer than 5 minutes and I don’t want to stop every 2 hours. Let me go 3-4! More range, faster curve. Give it to me!

@Teslarati Anything below 25 minutes to 80% is fine but Tesla currently are at 35 minutes on many of their batteries. Anything below 10 minutes is just insane and mostly for towing. Sweet spot considering cost and convenience is 15-25 minutes but still give me ~400 miles of range.

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With the kids on a trip, rest stops happen more than the need to charge. We stop at chargers and by the time everyone's done with the restroom, food or drink, we are usually charged up more than we need to keep going. Never had an issue with charging too slowly or running out of juice.

A 10 minute charge allows people who can’t charge overnight to realistically own an EV. Right now it takes nearly 40 minutes to get to 80% and over an hour for 100%. Also a lot of the early Tesla buyers bought the car to support the mission, but now Tesla is dropping the ball on charging speed and range.

@Teslarati That’s a no from me. I would rather Tesla focused on autonomy which will make charging speeds be way less of a concern for everyone. Just get in a different cybercab or if you’re on a road trip you’ll probably be sleeping anyway

@Teslarati I want 100 miles more range, rather than faster charging. I stop more often in my Y LR than I have ever stopped in an ICE vehicle. On long trips, I often stop because the car needs to charge, not because I want to stop. My real life experience.

@Teslarati I travel between the Bay Area and LA a lot in my CT. I really don’t mind the charge times. It is about an hour longer but FSD and food/bathroom breaks make for a less stressful travel day.

@Teslarati I do most of my roadtripping charges at Bucc-ee's. I wish the charge rate was slower. 🤣

@Teslarati Tesla’s priority should be to get more people driving Teslas so that we can advance the electrification transition more quickly for the planet… there’s plenty to do when charging for 20 minutes—read, listen, meditate, step outside the rat race.

nope, but we do need to make more super chargers that are drive through so i do not have to unhitch my RV every 2 hours just to charge. We are smart enough to make fsd, we should be smart enough to have ChargerShops that use your phone for access, tesla account for vending, clean restrooms… and for gods sake a trash can, window scrub thing, and fast wifi. Is this asking too much? Take my money @tesla. be a minute entrepreneurial.

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@Teslarati While fast charging sounds convenient, I think the focus should first be on improving battery tech, to the point where it could charge this fast with little to no impact on overall lifespan.

@Teslarati Should they slow down gas pumping so you have more time to grab food and go to the bathroom?

With Autonomous Vehicles the equation will change, but right now the 1.2kw chargers are starting to roll out, so it's not really a question now and won't be in the future either. With Optimus you will be able to send the car out to charge for you while you're asleep if you can't charge at home.

85-90% of the time I charge at home, which takes 8 seconds (to plug the car in, I go in my house and wake up to a full charge). So for the 10-15% of the time I’m using Superchargers on a road trip, big deal if it takes a little longer than pumping gas. I don’t have a gas station at home.

@Teslarati Just driven from northern France to Lisbon. 1200 miles. 2022 Model Y SR. IMO charging is too fast already.

@Teslarati No, just have chargers at every restaurant or places people would stop at when traveling. If a full charge is 400 miles, a half charge adds 200 miles. How often does someone travel more then 600 miles in a day? Then stay somewhere you can charge overnight.

@Teslarati I realize that most people want 400 mile range like an ICE car has, and that’s why they won’t buy electric. But once you own one you realize that for the majority of your driving, you don’t need even close to 400 miles worth of range. The extra cost would outweigh any benefit.

@Teslarati For most people. The current range of a MY or M3 is more than enough for their daily commute and shopping excursions. Its the edge cases & you go on road trips do the supercharger network comes into play. 15min to 80% would be fine for most folks.

@Teslarati 800V and 400kw Superchargers are the future

@Teslarati 15o-20 mins max charge to 80% and 500km range would work best for me

@Teslarati No, it doesn't but it needs to get faster.

@Teslarati 15 minutes is no problem. Would be good to have longer range though, for areas with less superchargers like Australia

I think the battery sizes and charging speed are mostly fine. I'd like to see superchargers have more consistent food and bathroom options. The ultimate charging experience is at a Buc-ee's or similar. Nice bathrooms, decent options for a quick bite. So many superchargers are at businesses that are on their last legs or have even closed since the charger opened.

I just rented a Tesla for a week and charging was a non-issue. The Tesla app does an incredible job of finding the perfect route and using Grok to plan the trips was AWESOME! Our charging stops gave us time to get coffee and we usually took longer than the charging needed. Tesla is the way.

@Teslarati If Tesla cut a deal with US based QuantumScape you could have 500+ miles with 80% charge in 12 minutes and because it is a Solid State Battery zero thermal run away. It’s there for the taking……..

I think that the desire for fast charging actually springs from generations of drivers, standing out in the wind and the cold and the goddamn freezing rain, waiting for the never-to-be-sufficiently cursed pump to finally kick off. 😤 They haven't internalized that you don't have to DO that anymore! 🤯

@Teslarati Longer range. No hesitation with that answer.

@Teslarati Faster charging wouldn't benefit me, but I can see how it could benefit others.

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@Teslarati If the costs are the same I don’t care. But they will not be. People don’t understand the infrastructure upgrades that’s required.

@Teslarati Nope. Someone tell the influencers.

@Teslarati 20-80% in under 20 minutes is fair ask. But also 400 range is a fair ask.

@Teslarati Maybe it could be selective. You could chose the I gotta poop charge, or the I have to keep getting down the road right now charge level.

@Teslarati And more range. On a trip 300 miles of range max is not sufficient. We need at least 400 or more.

@Teslarati Supercharging has never been a problem for me, so I'm biased, but if we could add many more SC's I think the time to charge issue would become mute.

I am more interested in longer range for traveling. I only occasionally go to a Supercharger because of daily commute (I charge from 110V outlet at home), but plug in, grab a few things from Target right there, and by the time I am back, I added 27% charge, enough for my home slow charge to get me through the week. Faster charging wouldn't change that equation.