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Goodbye friend. What a crazy journey picking up my R1S would have sent me on. Hopefully the next owner enjoys it as much as I did. 🫡
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Chad Moran
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Chad Moran
@ChadMoran
Adventurer, sky gazer, cat dad, EV enthusiast. If you want someone to agree with everything you say, I'm not him. Opinions are my own.
Seattle, WA Entrou em Eylül 2008
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@dictionaryhill @HarmlessHarvest I can't with Coconut water, I've tired. It's so off putting to me.
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First couple sips of this are weird but then it grows on you. It’s great.
Then I read the 20g of sugar and gave the rest to my Son.
It’s really good after a few sips though.
.@HarmlessHarvest
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@congressdj C'mon you gotta admit the Neo joke was good. 🤣
Not my best, but my favorite astro pic.
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@congressdj You "do this for a living" and your best work tonight was six replies with zero substance, a friendship speedrun, insulting a telescope you complimented two minutes earlier, and a Matrix reference.
Neo dodged bullets. You dodged the question.
Who pays you?
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Is this not a double standard? The CT was on FSD 13, this test on FSD 14. Every time I post a critical issue FSD has done 90% of the comments are yelling at me about how I'm "not on the latest version". Yet we're using a version 6 months newer to prove an older one DIDN'T do something?
JC Christopher@JCChristopher
I went to the exact same location of the Cybertruck accident shown in the Fox News video. This is the US-69/59 Eastex Freeway northbound HOV lane at the Y-split near the Eastex Park & Ride exit (approaching from downtown Houston toward Humble). In the Fox News video, the vehicle failed to follow the right curve, going straight into the barrier. Well, I tested it twice today with Tesla FSD engaged the entire time with zero human intervention. And unless you think I am a hologram speaking to you from another dimension now, it worked out really well. Here is the video of me taking the exact same curve twice, with Tesla FSD v14.2.2.5.
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@theBocker70 @thunderf00t > Most likely the same answer for both questions: she was manually pressing the accelerator.
Oh, so we can make shit up when it fits our narrative? What if Fox News had done that, how would you hav responded? What's your evidence she did? I'll wait.
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@ChadMoran @thunderf00t So, ask yourself why she was going that fast.
And if she disengaged because she was going too fast, why didn't she slow down after disengaging?
Most likely the same answer for both questions: she was manually pressing the accelerator.
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Full self driving (FSD)
FOUR SECONDS from DEATH
.... hey it give you four second to try to not die.... seems fine right guys!
Lord Bebo@MyLordBebo
Why turn off autopilot?
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@congressdj My brother in Christ you tried to bond with me over stargazing three replies ago and now you're insulting the gear. You're having an argument with yourself and somehow losing.
Weren't you done with all of this?
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I’ve seriously never seen someone as triggered as you. You muted me. Then I called you on it. Then you decide to unmute me. Then you make demands. You come at me with a closed mind. This is why I say cope. Good heavens man.
You spend your nights chasing faint fuzzies with that department-store achromat, yet somehow the universe remains stubbornly out of focus. 😂
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@TeslaVandalWtch Stop trying to police all information. The people who are willing to believe that Fox News article already think that. You're eroding your own mental health and wasting your time on people who won't already listen.
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@ChadMoran That's not an actual argument. I explained how the outrage would exist. And btw, because of that misinformation, thousands of people now think that FSD runs into walls. Blatant lying and spreading of misinformation warrants outrage.
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Funny how he deleted the post. Where is the outage around this?
Chad Moran@ChadMoran
Are the people exclaiming the CT driver wasn't paying attention going to pile on this post? Probably not. 💅🏻
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Brother you've been through five emotional phases in this thread and I've been asking the same question the entire time. One of us is triggered and it's not the one still waiting on an answer.
Let me know when you're actually willing to have a discussion rather than hurl insults.
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Of course, the driver is responsible. I've never refused that, show me a single post of mine where I did. I'll wait.
However, and this is the part where I'll need to explain it slowly to you. That doesn't preclude FSD from being a contributor to the situation. Do you understand the difference?
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@congressdj Four replies. Zero engagement with the actual argument. A full emotional arc from "cope" to "I thought you might be interesting."
Which is it? You still haven't even answered the original question. All you've done is act like a petulant child. Keep going.
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@ChadMoran I should be muting you with this claptrap. Do a simple search of my posts. You unmute me and come demanding? Go ahead and ignore me. I thought you might be interesting. You’re not.
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@PK50ae @congressdj No one said FSD drove into the wall. Y'all are just projecting your insecurities left and right. You can get off your knees, daddy Elon isn't here, Tesla doesn't even know you exist.
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@congressdj @ChadMoran Right! I’ve been critical myself. It’s not perfect yet but I’ve been in these things since 2018 and slamming themselves smartly into walls is not what’s going to happen.
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Let me translate your reply for everyone: "I can't answer the actual question so here's an ad hominem grab bag I keep in my drafts folder."
You didn't address the double standard. You didn't explain why v14 validates v13. You didn't engage with the argument at all. You just said "cope" like a guy who learned debate from TikTok comments.
"Not a licensed AV tech", are you?.
"No access to the data" neither does anyone running v14 tests to defend v13.
"Mute people and call names" brother, you opened with an insult and closed with "cope." You're not the protagonist you think you are.
You have the maturity of someone that peaked in an Xbox Live lobby.
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@ChadMoran No, it’s because you’re not a licensed AV tech, have no access to the data, and like to mute people and call names. Folks have every right to call you out for your speculation. Cope.
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@TeslaVandalWtch Ah, right. Double standards. Only outages when it doesn't fit the pro-Tesla narrative. Got it! 💅🏻
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@ChadMoran Let me explain for you. The outrage would happen if he disengaged FSD, drove the vehicle into a wall and then blamed FSD. Hope that clears it up
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@PK50ae @congressdj What did you think about the Mark Rober experiment he did? Let's play a game.
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@congressdj @PK50ae No, I surround myself with people who challenge me but who do so in good faith and respect. You, do not. Bye bye.
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@PK50ae @ChadMoran He’s already shut me up. He mutes people who challenge his version of reality. Whatev.
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@cersmiami Much better, I don't live in Seattle city any more. Still high though about $500/yr.
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@marcus_sappus @alandail @Moonsausage3 @28delayslater I have at no point moved the goal posts. All you've done is make excuses.
Argue all you want but FSD created a dangerous situation. Don't really care if you disagree. :)
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No, the point is to prevent a crash, yet you keep moving the goal posts. There were four seconds to prevent a crash, and if the person driving had pressed the brakes there would have been even more time to prevent a crash. However, the person driving likely was still pressing the accelerator which prevents the regen braking. Also, my teslas, including the cybertruck have always had aggressive regen braking in every version of FSD, so you don't know what you're talking about.
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Here's the original video, which looks like it's actual speed. I used two markers and consistently measured it. It took 75 frames in a 30 FPS video to travel 212.63 ft equating to 57.9 MPH (probably 60). The incident occurred in August of 2025.
These are just facts. Yes the driver should have intervened sooner. Yes, FSD was approaching way too fast.
Chad Moran@ChadMoran
I normally don't bother armchair quarterbacking these situations. But watching the Tesla Stans come into the comments is funny. Elon said Autopilot (FSD?) was disengaged 4s before the impact which if you watch the video looks like it was going way too fast at that point. Am I missing something?
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@ShanghaiSelvage @CajunCybertruck Counted frames in the video. Multiple people came up to similar conclusions, 58 MPH.
When she disengaged FSD she was going 58 MPH with 170 ft left to slow down to 20 MPH for the turn. That would have taken 21 fps2/0.63g of stopping force. That's hard braking, really hard.
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@ChadMoran @CajunCybertruck Was her speed confirmed or just assumed from map data?
She didn't need to stop—only slow enough for the turn.
JC's car began turning when it was at 28mph.
In 2 seconds she could've reached 28mph.
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You're reaching. I'm disappointed to hear you say this.
They are reporting what the driver said, they even cited that. "Easily debunked".... what? What exactly could they have easily debunked. There was ZERO data on this until Elon tweeted. Wouldn't they just be making something up?
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@ChadMoran The lie is the claim made by the driver. It's a transparent lie. We could all see what was likely the truth, and the telematics apparently confirm it.
Fox says "allegedly" as if that absolves them from boosting the lie. I disagree.
Don't publish easily debunked lies.
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@ChadMoran Data doesn’t lie.
Teslascope@teslascope
We review cases like this all the time, and our entire career is spent managing and studying data from these vehicles through our platform (when either consented by vehicle owners or in de-identified form). Multiple test drives have been taken within the past 24 hours at this location on both the latest and older FSD lane assist stacks (including older than the one installed in this incident). In both cases, the vehicle traveled at a slower speed (35-49mph) than in the incident (54-68mph at the 4-second prior mark). This implies that the driver was pressing down on the accelerator, forcing the vehicle to accelerate faster than it would normally. This action does not deactivate lane assist/FSD, but the system treats it as a manual override (as it is). Given the speed of travel, the turn ahead and posted speed signs (and that the vehicle was traveling at 3-4x the posted speed), this all supports the narrative that the driver was not paying attention to the road and was potentially driving recklessly. If the vehicle was operating normally and at its own suggested speed, it would have likely handled the corner turn with ease, as has been tested on the same vehicle, as well as other models. All speculative, all an opinion of course.
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